Dragoons feeling left out?

[myahele]

I agree, DRGs utility is non existent compared to NIN. For now NIN shared gear with MNK up to ilv 110, so gearing them is fairly easy if somebody has a MNK already.

Not only that, but TP regen+mug+increase movement speed and more makes NIN much more desired melee than lolDRGs

[JayCommon]

I didn't jump on the NIN hype-train yet. I used all of the additional low levels to help me finish my WHM so I could have 1 decently geared job in each aspect of holy trinity. I won't pretend to know what I'm talking about when it comes to Ninja, but this thread seriously reminds me of some of the problems DPS had with bards before they got nerfed (i think it was 2.1 or pre-2.1?) and specifically what Yoshi-P said in regards to Bards.

Not his exact wording, but he said something along the lines of "We want all the different types of DPS to be like pieces to a puzzle. Currently, we feel that Bards have too many pieces of that puzzle."

We got a couple potency nerfs, the additional effect on Rain of Death was altered, and BfB's base damage increased was nerfed, but the DRG trait that raises it stayed the same. The last one was basically just to hurt anyone who cross-classes it, but hurt Bards the most due to all of the different buffs we can get. The extra damage multipled to a greater effect if we popped Hawk's Eye and Raging with it.

Is this accurate for how most of you feel? That NIN's "have too many pieces of the puzzle" ??

Because after reading some of the comments in this thread about what it can do, it sure as shit sounds like they are more OP than Bards ever were before we got nerfed....

[Spiritus]

Honestly, they aren't gonna buff every other dps class to bring it up to Ninja, I'd hope not anyway. I don't want content faceroll easy. My guess is in 2.45 expect either a nerf to their utility or their potency. Im hoping it'll be a pretty decent potency nerf to put them somewhere between bard and dragoon. You can't have utility and dmg, just unbalanced and we end up with this issue here.

[Kamil]

I did not think a change like this would occur...

[Moerser]

I know we got a nice buff with this update buy why are we getting excluded now from end game?
Some people are asking why would I bring a dragoon over a ninja when they can buff the whole party dps vs 1 dps"bard".
Any real reason why to bring a dragoon any more?

Because u wanna play it.

Greetz,
Mörser out

[Morningstar1337]

Okay right now I feel that this is one fact that is overlooked. Heavesnward will increase the Level cap, that means that DRG will have new skills and traits. (Course it also means that Ninja will also have new skills and possibly a new mudra). SE has also nerfed and buff classes before (BLM had both regaridng the potency of spells and the multi flare glitch being fixed)

[RiceisNice]

Okay right now I feel that this is one fact that is overlooked. Heavesnward will increase the Level cap, that means that DRG will have new skills and traits. (Course it also means that Ninja will also have new skills and possibly a new mudra). SE has also nerfed and buff classes before (BLM had both regaridng the potency of spells and the multi flare glitch being fixed)

If things are bad as it seems, Heavensward is too far off for something like this considering we still have one more content match (2.5) at least.

[Scrammbles]

If people are ready complaining about positional skills they should just roll range dps

[myahele]

I'm just annoyed that a melee class has access to all 6 elements

[Hyrist]

The forums are far more dramatic than the actual game community is.

Nobody is going to drop or kick you on the grounds of being a dragoon. No group you want to be in anyways is going to kick you for a monk or ninja.

The differences between Monk and Dragoon are so inconsequential that a single moment of human error makes up the difference, and more importantly, won't matter one way or another for runs.

And the absolute same matters for Ninja. The reason why the performance peaks are higher on Ninja and Monk is that the stability of both of these classes are not nearly as forgiving in offensive posturing. To reach those peaks, and that marginal difference in DPS, you have to be absolutely perfect. And due to fight conditioning, you often won't be. Even if you were, again, the differences are marginal at best.

Again, no player in their right mind is going to care on these matters. Play the class you enjoy the most - be competent at that class, and you won't have to worry. As a Dragoon. I defiantly did and do not feel left out. Ninja's has great damage synergy that works well with my Disembowel. It's convenient even more so for us as we've got a Main Ninja coming into our static raid group to fill a vacancy and it meshes well with our group set.