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    NyarukoW's Avatar
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    Ai Hana
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    Faerie
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    Archer Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by IfritReborn View Post
    ... NO FAULT of my own!
    It is your fault for not holding your friend accountable. My FC member did this once, I immediately lectured all of them. No one got the penalty since. You got to hold people accountable for proper decorum and behavior.
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    Player IfritReborn's Avatar
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    Kevvy Alexandros
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    Gilgamesh
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    Machinist Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by NyarukoW View Post
    It is your fault for not holding your friend accountable. My FC member did this once, I immediately lectured all of them. No one got the penalty since. You got to hold people accountable for proper decorum and behavior.
    And how was I supposed to know what that the party leader received a tell from someone and would invite them in!?

    HELLO am I mind-reader?! This is a party finder group you neanderthal were all strangers! And now the bonus window is all done, 30+ time has been wasted thanks to this incredibly obtuse crummy system.
    /clap SE, good job yet again!
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    Cynfael's Avatar
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    Sacrilege Moonshadow
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    Hyperion
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    Black Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by IfritReborn View Post
    And how was I supposed to know what that the party leader received a tell from someone and would invite them in!?

    HELLO am I mind-reader?! This is a party finder group you neanderthal were all strangers! And now the bonus window is all done, 30+ time has been wasted thanks to this incredibly obtuse crummy system.
    /clap SE, good job yet again!
    I'd be more upset with the party who trolled you than with SE.

    There is no perfect system. On the bright side, other parties in that same queue were no longer delayed by the defective party that you unfortunately found yourself in. Short of a DM being on standby to figure out who exactly in the party is naughty vs. nice, this is about the best we've got.
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    DoubleT's Avatar
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    Double Toker
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    Hyperion
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    Thaumaturge Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by NyarukoW View Post
    It is your fault for not holding your friend accountable. My FC member did this once, I immediately lectured all of them. No one got the penalty since. You got to hold people accountable for proper decorum and behavior.
    you obviously cant read. THE GUY WASNT HIS FRIEND. HE JOINED A PF. HE HAD NO IDEA ANOTHER PERSON WAS INVITED. How was any of that under his control to "hold the others accountable"? And I'll share my own bad experience. I was helping someone with the new dungeons when the patch came out, I had no idea that had any penalties at all before they joined me and we didnt withdraw from any while he was with me. I queued up for a dungeon after I was done with him, withdrew bc another friend needed help, boom... 30 min penalty off of my first withdraw. the system is far from perfect an completely unnecasary to begin with. Some people have lives an things come up leaving them unable to accept the queue. Not everyone was trying to queue/withdraw to just try an get in that run with their friends.
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    Ashkendor Zahirr
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    Balmung
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    Paladin Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by DoubleT View Post
    the system is far from perfect an completely unnecasary to begin with. Some people have lives an things come up leaving them unable to accept the queue. Not everyone was trying to queue/withdraw to just try an get in that run with their friends.
    It may not be perfect, but I completely disagree that it was unnecessary. The amount of fishing for in-progress runs had become almost unbelievable. Some days it would take almost as long to actually get a full party together for Syrcus Tower as it did to run the damn thing. Sure, not every single one of them was a player fishing for in progress, but the vast majority of them were. It's great that there's now some fashion of accountability for this behavior, which is basically just trolling the other players in the queue for that same duty.

    And yes, I understand, people have lives but seriously you get three strikes. That means you have two "freebies" where you can withdraw from a duty that's already popped completely without penalty. Consider what repeated withdrawals does to the other 3, 7, or 23 people that happen to be matched up with you in the duty finder. They get to wait for the full 45 seconds while you time out because you're AFK, and then wait again for someone new to be matched to the party. If they're lucky, that person is actually at the keyboard. If not, it's a case of lather rinse repeat until you just want to reach out through the internet and slap someone upside the head for not clicking the button.

    If you're that busy that you continually run into the problem of timing out because of being AFK once the party is full, you may want to consider simply removing yourself from the queue whenever you get pulled away and then re-entering when you get back. It may take you longer to get into a dungeon by doing it that way, but it's considerate to the other players waiting and it keeps you from incurring the 30 minute penalty.
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    Last edited by Ashkendor; 11-05-2014 at 07:48 PM.

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    Sianne Rose
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    Cactuar
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    Paladin Lv 31
    Quote Originally Posted by NyarukoW View Post
    It is your fault for not holding your friend accountable. My FC member did this once, I immediately lectured all of them. No one got the penalty since. You got to hold people accountable for proper decorum and behavior.
    lol That would have been my last moment in your FC. SE has failed with this implementation and it needs to be fixed. Period.
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