Locked out of the Duty Finder.

[Camate]

Since there appears to be a bit of confusion, I’d like to explain a little bit about how the Duty Finder penalty system works.

After the participants have been matched together, penalties will be counted in the event you press the “Withdraw” button or fail to press any button at all in the allotted time frame. As long as all of the party members have not been matched together, leaving the queue will not count towards the penalty.

Also, in the event that you queue up to the Duty Finder as a party, if one party member withdraws when matched, it will count as a penalty towards all of the party members. This excludes times when you queue as a complete pre-made party. Withdrawing in these instances will not count towards the penalty.

*When it comes to Crystal Tower, immunity for the withdrawal penalty only takes place when you queue as a full, pre-made 24-person alliance.

[IzumiYuki]

Since there appears to be a bit of confusion, I’d like to explain a little bit about how the Duty Finder penalty system works.

After the participants have been matched together, penalties will be counted in the event you press the “Withdraw” button or fail to press any button at all in the allotted time frame. As long as all of the party members have not been matched together, leaving the queue will not count towards the penalty.

Also, in the event that you queue up to the Duty Finder as a party, if one party member withdraws when matched, it will count as a penalty towards all of the party members. This excludes times when you queue as a complete pre-made party. Withdrawing in these instances will not count towards the penalty.

*When it comes to Crystal Tower, immunity for the withdrawal penalty only takes place when you queue as a full, pre-made 24-person alliance.

Is there any reason why the entire party has to be affected by the doings of a single player?

[Archadius]

Is there any reason why the entire party has to be affected by the doings of a single player?

If you're entering something as a partial pre-made party, be it with friends or via the PF, etc... You should either know these people, or be performing ready checks before you press that button to reserve an instance. Failure to do so is at the fault of the party leader. This system is working as intended. If you queue solo, there is no way that people can screw you over with this system. If you queue as a full pre-made party (or alliance in the case of CT/ST), there is no way that people can screw you over with this system.

I hope that helps clarify what Camate is telling you.

[Rjain]

If you're entering something as a partial pre-made party, be it with friends or via the PF, etc... You should either know these people, or be performing ready checks before you press that button to reserve an instance. Failure to do so is at the fault of the party leader.

Yeah because god forbid someone has to take a piss or let their dog out some time in the sometimes 20 to 40 minute wait to find a dungeon in a partial party setup.

[Tupsi]

Yeah because god forbid someone has to take a piss or let their dog out some time in the sometimes 20 to 40 minute wait to find a dungeon in a partial party setup.

Three Strikes - People who keep saying this keep pretending it's a one withdraw then lockout. That is simply not the case.

[Rjain]

Three Strikes - People who keep saying this keep pretending it's a one withdraw then lockout. That is simply not the case.

Three strikes a day (for the whole party and not just a single person), and it has happened to me 3 times in the last 2 days. With friends, who cannot be bothered to sit at their computer staring at the screen in-game for 20 minute queue time waits. People tend to get thirsty or hungry or have to use the bathroom in those times. If you are defending this you are crazy.

because typing "brb bio" is SOOOOOO hard

I'm afraid typing "brb bio" is not going to stop the server from penalizing you.

[Tupsi]

People tend to get thirsty or hungry or have to use the bathroom in those times. If you are defending this you are crazy..

Indeed people have needs - Yet people who think this didn't fix the problem are also being a bit on the not sane side. Despite what inside ST is like now, it's nice actually being able to get inside of content without sitting and waiting for the fishers and trolls to finish. So it's not defending, I just know in the grand scheme of things it's done far more good.

It's funny - People who somehow always miss the queue are now coming out of the woodwork yet didn't complain to SE to extend the Commence timer during the last year...this is kind of why many people get skeptical about the "oh I had to take a piss all 3 times!"

[Kaze3434]

Yeah because god forbid someone has to take a piss or let their dog out some time in the sometimes 20 to 40 minute wait to find a dungeon in a partial party setup.

because typing "brb bio" is SOOOOOO hard

[Kimikryo]

Is there any reason why the entire party has to be affected by the doings of a single player?

This please.

While I welcome this penalty system for those "in progress fishers" I don't like to be the one getting a penalty if people in my party decide to withdraw for whatever reason (like the party leader forgetting he still has something else logged in).

There has to be a way, that only the one withdrawing gets a penalty (at least in 4 man dungeons) and not everyone.


And I had rather an official clear up what he is saying, and not somebody else who thinks he understands better than others.

[kidvideo]

Is there any reason why the entire party has to be affected by the doings of a single player?

Looks like this is intended from the perspective of a single Duty Finder player... but this unfortunately can cause penalties against some who shouldn't be penalized for the actions of another.