The cycle of disbanding that keep casuals from doing content

[Ellatrix]

If you spent hours and weeks and still haven't cleared, there is only one thing in common in all those runs.

[Kyri]

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Not really, when 95% of the those PFs are multiple clears only, farm T6 , farm T7, etc. I have not even seen people PF T9 farm party yet. Obviously they don't want the "noobs". And when they are done farming, they are not going to bother either. And then you have the 1 T6 learning party that doesn't get filled for 3 hours in a row.

This is what makes me sad too.. I have been waiting for a while to help people outside my static and these partys are never filling up. Even looking at the Party finder Im already seeing:
t10 pt know to 40% or don't join us
Shiva EX: Farm only
Shiva EX: know to last phase or don't waste our time.
Shiva EX: Selling, pst.

Though as someone who bashed my head against t5 for a good few months myself back in the day and yes though I like to help some fights do make me cringe going back into them, I still help or gather a group who I know can clear to help someone who can clear but can never get a pt who can do so to get the win. One person who was stuck inT5 and asked me almost to a annoying degree to help them past t5 is trying to sell the win for outrageous prices to other people. This does make me sad to a extent. Im not saying everyone and their dog should be able to beat all the content out there right now, just that there needs to be more of a incentive to help these people who do try and try and -could- beat these things and if that's not possible a repercussion to those who only sell help. Being top dog isn't a bad thing, working hard to beat content isn't a bad thing but obviously there is a flaw in the system that needs a solution. Bannable offense might not be the answer it's just the only answer -I- personally see. If someone has a better idea of a system that could work that would be great advice to this forum, rather then: "We deserve it and you don't so stop whining about it"

[NyarukoW]

If you spent hours and weeks and still haven't cleared, there is only one thing in common in all those runs.

The one thing in common is that hours spent waiting and never getting a run started. And you see in the PF people selling T6-9 clears for 60 mil at the same time.

[Kallera]

I'm pretty sure they are nice people irl, but It's hard to think good of the person that asks for millions of gil doing an activity that's usually done for free, and shouts about it regularly. I don't have to pay folks in other parties. I don't ask to be paid for my help.

[AlexionSkylark]

If you spent hours and weeks and still haven't cleared, there is only one thing in common in all those runs.

OMG, I'm really holding myself not to be rude with you.
I didn't spend hours and weeks actually DOING the content. 9/10 of that time was spent WAITING to form parties. And also, what kind of progression can you possibly expect when you never do more than 3 tries with the same people?

[BLaCKnBLu3B3RRY]

hm. well that content isn't meant for casual players. at least not at it's immediate release. it's supposed to be the most challenging/difficult end-game content. lol i kind of thought they would go up to like 9 coils or something.

in any case, that content is not meant for CASUAL gaming.

[AlexionSkylark]

hm. well that content isn't meant for casual players. at least not at it's immediate release. it's supposed to be the most challenging/difficult end-game content. lol i kind of thought they would go up to like 9 coils or something.

in any case, that content is not meant for CASUAL gaming.

I'm talking about SECOND coil, not Final coil.

[NyarukoW]

OMG, I'm really holding myself not to be rude with you. ...

Don't get forum banned because they say all sorts of crap. This is well known clear seller. See they said so themselves:

... Also, mercing runs is only like 30% of my income, ...

They have a vested interest in making it difficult and demoralize people who are trying to clear without paying their bridge toll.

They get their other 60% probably from RMT sales or buying up all the lots and they making people to pay them to relinquish the lots and other unethical and nefarious means that we don't even try to imagine.

... in any case, that content is not meant for CASUAL gaming.

So what? Learning PFs stay unfilled because people with experience deliberately avoid the "casuals" right, since it is not for "casuals"? Obviously people can not make anyone do anything they don't want to, but to come to the forums and give the OP a hard time for point out the difficulties achieves exactly what? What we see that the hatred and contempt for newer players or newbies coming thru loud and clear.

[AlexionSkylark]

Well, he won't get anything from me, I have only 240k gil in my char... Lol.

[Ellatrix]

Don't get forum banned because they say all sorts of crap. This is well known clear seller. See they said so themselves:



They have a vested interest in making it difficult and demoralize people who are trying to clear without paying their bridge toll.

They get their other 60% probably from RMT sales or buying up all the lots and they making people to pay them to relinquish the lots and other unethical and nefarious means that we don't even try to imagine.

I find it entertaining you bothered to dig through my posts to find that. The other 70% (30+60=90...) is from crafting, but ok.