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  1. 10-27-2014 08:40 PM #1
    Duelle
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rosalynd View Post
    A: XI had a release stigma that impeeded the red mage for the duration of the game, the same sort of stigma that paladins and shaman suffered in vanilla WoW. Though in an odd compliment to WoW, their community got over that stigma, you clearly have not.
    Gotta give credit where it is due. The reason WoW's community got over the stigma was because the developers revamped all hybrids to spec into a role in the trinity (thus making the subpar tank specs and the DPS specs raid-viable). And that was prompted by posts, feedback and arguments presented by the Druid, Shaman and Paladin communities. After the changes no serious raid leader could laugh at an enhance shaman or ret paladin, as they went from being jokes to viable members in a raid.

    Prior to that you either tried to hide what you were (I've tanked dungeons during TBC where ret paladins would try to pretend they were warriors just so that they wouldn't get booted from the party for being lolret) or comformed to the whims of the hive mind and heal-bitched your way into raids.
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    Last edited by Duelle; 10-27-2014 at 08:43 PM.
    * The sad thing is that FFXIV turned RDM into a turret, and people think that's what it's supposed to be. It's supposed to combine sword and magic into something more, not spend the bulk of gameplay spamming spells and jump into melee for only 3 GCDs before scurrying back to the back line like good little casters.
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    Red Mage - COMPLETE (https://tinyurl.com/y6tsbnjh), Chemist - Second Pass (https://tinyurl.com/ssuog88), Thief - First Pass (https://tinyurl.com/vdjpkoa), Rune Fencer - First Pass (https://tinyurl.com/y3fomdp2)
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  2. 10-27-2014 08:44 PM #2
    Rosalynd
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    Quote Originally Posted by Duelle View Post
    Gotta give credit where it is due. The reason WoW's community got over the stigma was because the developers revamped all hybrids to spec into a role in the trinity (thus making the subpar tank specs and the DPS specs raid-viable). And that was prompted by posts, feedback and arguments presented by the Druid, Shaman and Paladin communities.

    Prior to that you either tried to hide what you were (I've tanked dungeons during TBC where ret paladins would try to pretend they were warriors just so that they wouldn't get booted from the party for being lolret) or comformed to the whims of the hive mind and heal-bitched your way into raids.
    Aye, it kinda says something when their community got those changes made and other communities could not.
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