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    Quote Originally Posted by Wildsprite View Post
    now you're assuming things. you should really just wait and see what happens rather than assume
    You seem to know how quotes work since you've used it yourself. Read my post again CAREFULLY and you will see that it was in reply to something. Not a general statement! =)

    Quote Originally Posted by Vhailor View Post
    He was commenting on Lord_Zlatan's post, which can be (and likely was) interpreted as advocating for the cash shop to offer non-vanity items as well (so long as they're alongside in-game options, rather than replacing them). There's not much of a way to dispute that such a move would have a negative impact on crafters, though I'm not sure how severe it would be.
    Not even the non-vanity aspect! A lot of the cool looking stuff requires current tier max melds to achieve. A lot of crafters will not want to bother making such a large RNG heavy investment. When a large amount of players can/will buy the finished product for like $3
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nemhy View Post
    Not even the non-vanity aspect! A lot of the cool looking stuff requires current tier max melds to achieve. A lot of crafters will not want to bother making such a large RNG heavy investment. When a large amount of players can/will buy the finished product for like $3
    Yea about that - Some of the best looking gear I've obtained came from Say, Hullbreaker Isle - Which crafter made that again?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kyoraki View Post
    I agree 100%. None of this should be blamed on Yoshi. It's entirely the fault of the same greedy pencil pushers that ruined 1.0, put microtransactions in Bravely Default's 'enhanced' edition, and green lit the money drain posing as a game that is All The Bravest.
    This argument doesn't work when people said: "You can't completely blame Tanaka for the mess up of 1.0", yet people were adamant in blaming him. Yoshida has quite a large say so in what goes on with ARR, look at patches - he willingly delays them if even one small aspect isn't to his liking, meaning he does have quite the say so in what goes on. It could be upper management, sure, but Yoshida doesn't get pushed around, so he's not a victim.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tupsi View Post
    Yea about that - Some of the best looking gear I've obtained came from Say, Hullbreaker Isle - Which crafter made that again?
    The kraken, duh. He pulls out his macros before everyone comes in and hands the made items to the minibosses too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TeaTimeBear View Post
    The kraken, duh.
    Well with all those arms I wouldn't doubt it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tupsi View Post
    Yea about that - Some of the best looking gear I've obtained came from Say, Hullbreaker Isle - Which crafter made that again?
    Quote Originally Posted by Nemhy View Post
    A lot of the cool looking stuff requires current tier max melds to achieve.
    Clear said "a lot" not EVERY good looking item. Just because someone (in this case myself) say a lot of cool looking items come from crafting doesn't mean everything that is non-crafted looks like poop. Which is what you're implying I said anyway, apologies if that is not the case.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nemhy View Post
    Clear said "a lot" not EVERY good looking item. Just because someone (in this case myself) say a lot of cool looking items come from crafting doesn't mean everything that is non-crafted looks like poop. Which is what you're implying I said anyway, apologies if that is not the case.
    Erm, I said Some, not every..you actually spun what I wrote into saying I implied that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tupsi View Post
    This argument doesn't work when people said: "You can't completely blame Tanaka for the mess up of 1.0", yet people were adamant in blaming him. Yoshida has quite a large say so in what goes on with ARR, look at patches - he willingly delays them if even one small aspect isn't to his liking, meaning he does have quite the say so in what goes on. It could be upper management, sure, but Yoshida doesn't get pushed around, so he's not a victim.
    Perhaps. But I'd say there's a bigger divide between developing a game that flat out doesn't work, and failing to stop upper management from bleeding the customer dry. Tanaka was directly responsible for producing a game that's near unplayable. I'd assume Yoshi gets a lot less over how the game is monetised.
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    As long as none of it provides content advantage, I'm all for SE trying to make profit.
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