Cash shop confirmed

[Magis]

Sad that it's come to this. Yoshi comes in the save the day after Sqaure Enix fucked up with 1.0, and now the game is a success they're going to start nickel and diming us.

We were idiots for thinking that Sqaure Enix had learned their lessons after nearly bankrupting themselves with stuff like this. Just watch as this great game slowly turns into All The Bravest 2.0.

To give him some credit... how much do you think this is upper management and how much is Yoshi? Upper management fucked v1.0 with forcing them to use XIII's engine and putting an unfinished game onto the market because "we gotta beat WoW: Cata's release" so I wouldn't be surprised if they are doing it again here.

[Nemhy]

There are a few concerns that I have regarding this new system. Not going to campaign against this decision since I'm fairly certain this will not be just scrapped. However, there is something that can be added that I (and many of my peers) would appreciate and be more accepting of this system.

Stuff like the Sleipnir Mount (hell ANY future mounts, really), minions not yet in the game, cosmetic clothing should NOT BE CASH SHOP EXCLUSIVE. Either make them rare drops/recipes in the game, or utilize the Veteran Rewards! As it stands, majority of the vet rewards past the Behemoth mount are pretty underwhelming! It's a great way to reward long time subscribers who may not have the disposable income to shell out cash in bursts. Would also fit the theme of the Vet rewards being cosmetic/visually nice goodies!

Now here is where things become mostly hypothetical! If you are not interested in such talk, then you don't need to read anything else. Lets say the Cash Shop comes out premium looking gear/mounts (they have more particle effect ect). Close to the same, or maybe even a bit better visually than something released via crating recipe or rare drop. Myself (and a few others I'm sure) find it very demotivating/disheartening to invest gil, (whether it be melds to get rare materials or what) and time spent grinding into items that can be easily one-upped by someone with a deeper IRL wallet. Yes, it's purely cosmetic items but there's no way I feel alone in thinking this! Please don't go down this route ever please, terrible way of doing things ESPECIALLY FOR THE P2P GAME.

Going to end this with a very well said quote. Awareness of such a potential practice needs to be known by all players spending their hard earned money to play this game.

From now on during the development process this will be a constant question. Do we make this item available in game, or shall we just sell it to the players?

[StrejdaTom]

Stuff like the Sleipnir Mount (hell ANY future mounts, really), minions not yet in the game, cosmetic clothing should NOT BE CASH SHOP EXCLUSIVE.

Sir if this happened, I woudlnt say a single thing against cash shop.

[Elven]

Man this upsets me why can't I buy high alagan gear and p2w is all goody in this game it's not like you're going to run to pvp with your new gear.

[myahele]

These items should be in cash shop exclusive as to not compete with in game content. Can you imagine if sleipnier was awareded for odin XM and also purchasable via cash shop? Many people will just buy it. Making it so that there is no incentive.

Same with vanity gear. As it stands most require hard to get mats, thus costing upwards to 3mil gil or less. If the same vanity gear will only cost me less than $5 I'll take it and save my gil for other things.

[Nemhy]

These items should be in cash shop exclusive as to not compete with in game content. Can you imagine if sleipnier was awareded for odin XM and also purchasable via cash shop? Many people will just buy it. Making it so that there is no incentive.

Same with vanity gear. As it stands most require hard to get mats, thus costing upwards to 3mil gil or less. If the same vanity gear will only cost me less than $5 I'll take it and save my gil for other things.

Yes, because no one in the game likes working hard for anything. =/

[StrejdaTom]

These items should be in cash shop exclusive as to not compete with in game content. Can you imagine if sleipnier was awareded for odin XM and also purchasable via cash shop? Many people will just buy it. Making it so that there is no incentive.

Same with vanity gear. As it stands most require hard to get mats, thus costing upwards to 3mil gil or less. If the same vanity gear will only cost me less than $5 I'll take it and save my gil for other things.

So you would rather not be able to get it ingame at all?

[Tupsi]

So you would rather not be able to get it ingame at all?

Funny enough, some arguments say Sleipnir should be in-game, yet you'd think by now, after a year, they would have added him to the Mantle loot list at the NPC if they had any initial intentions of adding it in-game. The fallacy many seem to partake in is that they figure no items will be obtainable in-game.

Look back at 2.1-2.3 so far, most gear has been vanity as is, this way, they can actuall focus on adding more gear in-game that looks good and separate some of the ways you can obtain. What was the mantra of the FFXIV community?

"Give us options"

Isn't a cash shop an option whether you agree with it or not? Did you splurge on the Mog Station Fantasias and extra retainers?

[Lord_Zlatan]

"Give us options"

This is actually a great point. I have shamelessly used cash shops for P2W services before. It was an option.

I have also used cash shops for awesome looking vanity gear... its an option.

I really don't think that they will nickel and dime us for P2W services. However, having items in the store that are an option for players as an alternative for things in game doesn't hurt anyone in the long run.

[Nemhy]

This is actually a great point. I have shamelessly used cash shops for P2W services before. It was an option.

I have also used cash shops for awesome looking vanity gear... its an option.

I really don't think that they will nickel and dime us for P2W services. However, having items in the store that are an option for players as an alternative for things in game doesn't hurt anyone in the long run.

Except the game's economy and every single DoH/DoL class. Why invest so much effort melding your gear to tip-top shape to make cool items, when it can just be obtained for like $3?