Cash shop confirmed

[NozomiKei]

I mean... if you go to a restaurant and pay for a meal - you expect what's included in the meal. An extra side of beans will cost extra. Because it's not included in the meal.

Just because they have the side of beans already cooked hot-and-ready and you paid for a meal doesn't mean you can have extra beans without paying more.

Not getting extra beans doesn't reduce the amount of food in the meal you paid for - and it doesn't take anything away.
The restaurant doesn't owe you a free side of beans just because you paid for a meal and saw they had some beans and wanted beans even though beans aren't part of the meal you paid for.

Cash shop is the extra side of beans.


Beans.




edit: Beans!

Except we're paying for a meal (that includes beans on the menu) and when they bring us our plate it is missing the beans. When we ask about it they inform us that we now need to buy those beans again before we can have them. Some people may not care at all for beans and just let it go, some people treasure those beans and want to eat nothing but beans all the live long day. Whether or not you care for beans though they are still not giving them to you. The people that don't care about the side of beans keep up their chant of "as long as it isn't the meat I don't care what they withhold." Those missing beans for the bean lovers are the meat lovers missing meat.

[tocsin]

Except we're paying for a meal (that includes beans on the menu) and when they bring us our plate it is missing the beans. When we ask about it they inform us that we now need to buy those beans again before we can have them. Some people may not care at all for beans and just let it go, some people treasure those beans and want to eat nothing but beans all the live long day. Whether or not you care for beans though they are still not giving them to you. The people that don't care about the side of beans keep up their chant of "as long as it isn't the meat I don't care what they withhold." Those missing beans for the bean lovers are the meat lovers missing meat.

(Assuming "Meat" is time spent completing content, such as farming primals, and "Beans" as vanity gear.)

Its actually like ordering a meal that does not specify whether beans are included or not, but since it has in the past included beans with the meal, you assumed that the meal would always include beans. The restaurant has now decided that including the beans free of charge were cutting the profit margins of the meal too close, and decided that placing the beans on a separate menu would be more cost efficient, so that if people wanted to just get beans, without having to get meat with it, they could get just the beans, for an individual price.

add that the beans were only placed on the table after consuming the meat, and vegetarians who could not or did not want to consume the meat were not allowed to consume the beans. they can now access it when they could not before

Although this does mean that you get less on your plate for the original meal price, it makes the beans much more accessible, and appeals to the vegetarians that were used to having to buy the meat, and then not consume it, just to get to the beans.

I like this restaurant logic. It makes me think of food, and as a resident "fat man gamer" I like food.

[NozomiKei]

(Assuming "Meat" is time spent completing content, such as farming primals, and "Beans" as vanity gear.)

Its actually like ordering a meal that does not specify whether beans are included or not, but since it has in the past included beans with the meal, you assumed that the meal would always include beans. The restaurant has now decided that including the beans free of charge were cutting the profit margins of the meal too close, and decided that placing the beans on a separate menu would be more cost efficient, so that if people wanted to just get beans, without having to get meat with it, they could get just the beans, for an individual price.

add that the beans were only placed on the table after consuming the meat, andvegetarians who could not or did not want to consume the meat were not allowed to consume the beans. they can now access it when they could not before

Although this does mean that you get less on your plate for the original meal price, it makes the beans much more accessible, and appeals to the vegetarians that were used to having to buy the meat, and then not consume it, just to get to the beans.

I like this restaurant logic. It makes me think of food, and as a resident "fat man gamer" I like food.

Not saying this in a snappy way: I wasn't making meat = time spent completing content (vanity is content too by the way)
I meant for meat to be taken as the items that are currently labelled as progression, as few as they actually are. The meat you get on your plate is actually quite tiny, though it is also a very fancy, delicious cut. Maybe I should have mentioned that this restaurant is also very well known for its extensive quality bean offerings; the Baskin Robins of beans to some. Your sub each month is the cost of your meal

[tocsin]

Hey guys, am I the only one noticing a considerable lack of cash shop in the patch notes? Are they actually listening to us?

[LittleArrow]

Hey guys, am I the only one noticing a considerable lack of cash shop in the patch notes? Are they actually listening to us?

I was curious about this too. I know it seems a lot of us here know about the cash shop, but almost everyone in game is completely oblivious. I find this funny, because so many people argue that either side is a small minority - we're all a minority b/c no one knows about it yet. This could be a calculated move on SE's part to keep the cash shop hush so the masses don't rush to the forums. Not everyone watched that twitch, and most players I know don't even care about live letters. Who knows though. I definitely think we'll see more of a response (pro or anti) once the patch comes out and people see just exactly what's going on.

[Zumi]

Hey guys, am I the only one noticing a considerable lack of cash shop in the patch notes? Are they actually listening to us?

They don't usually list promo or bought items in patch notes, like the ones you get from CD or from buying the Mog Plush. Also there is plenty of us who want to buy the items on the cash shop so there is no reason they wouldn't do it.

[Roris]

Hey guys, am I the only one noticing a considerable lack of cash shop in the patch notes? Are they actually listening to us?

Well the cash shop is linked to the game but in itself its own thing and those notices would fall under Lodestone and Mog Station related announcements. The cash shop minions are in the patch with no indication they're cash shop only when they have already been confirmed, so from now on there's no way of knowing which items will be cash shop only and which will be in game rewards until they get announced beforehand, if they even do.

[Fellisin]

Hey guys, am I the only one noticing a considerable lack of cash shop in the patch notes? Are they actually listening to us?

I would say that because it not actually part of the patch, but a site feature which happens to be launched at the same time. We'll most likely see a separate post on the cash shop appear on lodestone to the 2.4 notes come the 28th.

[Gramul]

Hey guys, am I the only one noticing a considerable lack of cash shop in the patch notes? Are they actually listening to us?

Probably not.
This is how it usually starts. Small, simple, unintrusive. Then they slowly add more and more to get you acclimated. Before you know it, you got a full sized cash shop with all sorts of exclusive fanciful gear, mounts, minions and 'more' all for the low price of your subscription plus a few extra bucks you won't notice add up.

[Negotiator]

Probably not.
This is how it usually starts. Small, simple, unintrusive. Then they slowly add more and more to get you acclimated. Before you know it, you got a full sized cash shop with all sorts of exclusive fanciful gear, mounts, minions and 'more' all for the low price of your subscription plus a few extra bucks you won't notice add up.

yep, totally agree.