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    Valmar's Avatar
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    Valmar Atheron
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    Leviathan
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    Quote Originally Posted by kyuven View Post
    fixed it for you.
    In a fight with skilled enough people, a Bard doesn't actually use their songs or rain of death. which makes me wonder at the potential viability of a pure archer.
    Unfortunately they can't equip the relic weapon, so there's that.
    Uhh I dont know what kind of group youre in but a BRDs songs are needed. TP Song in T8 for Melee, Foe Req and Mages Ballad for Casters Nuking.
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    Chen Kotomi
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    Archer Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Valmar View Post
    Uhh I dont know what kind of group youre in but a BRDs songs are needed. TP Song in T8 for Melee, Foe Req and Mages Ballad for Casters Nuking.
    Foe Req and Mage's Ballad aren't strictly needed. It's not like healers run out of MP in every fight, and in my experience if they ARE there's a wipe coming soon whether or not ballad is up. Foe req is a convenience more than anything and completely pointless if you have no caster DPS in your party.
    TP song maybe, but i've only seen one fight where that's cited. Recovery from death doesn't count, as my assumption is against encounters where no one is actually messing up.
    Just as there ARE situations where the songs could come in handy or are necessary, there are also situations where they collect dust on the hotbar. Most of the songs are catered towards situations where people are dying. If no one in the party is dying, there's no need to sing.
    Again things like t8 and Moggle Mog EX are the exception.
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    Sylvie Nevana
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    Quote Originally Posted by kyuven View Post
    Foe Req and Mage's Ballad aren't strictly needed. It's not like healers run out of MP in every fight, and in my experience if they ARE there's a wipe coming soon whether or not ballad is up.
    Again things like t8 and Moggle Mog EX are the exception.
    Sure, songs can be situational especially if you're overgeared for content but when it comes to progression bard songs are must. Mp ballad was great for progression in turn 7 since it allowed you to recover from multiple deaths. On turn 8 tp song is great for monk and drgs and mp ballad can be clutch sometimes depending on the situation. Smn's need it too at one point because they don't have infinite resources like blms. On turn 9 foe's requiem is a good way to get out of the heavensfall phase as quickly as possible especially before you outgear it.
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    Sapphic Meow
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valmar View Post
    Uhh I dont know what kind of group youre in but a BRDs songs are helpful. TP Song in T8 for Melee, Foe Req and Mages Ballad for Casters Nuking.
    Fixed it for you.
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