Remove the Class System in 3.0

[kyuven]

~History~:
First we just had classes.
Then they added jobs to attach to the classes with the intention that classes be better suited for solo play and Jobs be better for group play.
No one went back to classes, because any perceivable advantage they provided to solo players wasn't enough to bother with it.
Now we got a system that feels almost entirely arbitrary.

And that's basically it.

fixed it for you.
It doesn't help that when you get to 50 and get enough gear, your class doesn't make much of a difference anymore.
Also there are a few weird things people don't realize about the classes/jobs...for example, in a fight with skilled enough people, a Bard doesn't actually use their songs or rain of death. which makes me wonder at the potential viability of a pure archer.
Unfortunately they can't equip the relic weapon, so there's that.

[Alipoprocks]

for example, in a fight with skilled enough people, a Bard doesn't actually use their songs.

Wut? Maybe with skilled enough people, the brd doesn't need to play ballad. But the brd needs to play tp song, for example, in turn 8, especially if there is a skilled mnk in the party.

[Fornix]

Wut? Maybe with skilled enough people, the brd doesn't need to play ballad. But the brd needs to play tp song, for example, in turn 8, especially if there is a skilled mnk in the party.

A DRG is generally gonna run out of TP before the MNK. Especially if the DRG does what its supposed to do and die mid-fight.

[Valmar]

fixed it for you.
In a fight with skilled enough people, a Bard doesn't actually use their songs or rain of death. which makes me wonder at the potential viability of a pure archer.
Unfortunately they can't equip the relic weapon, so there's that.

Uhh I dont know what kind of group youre in but a BRDs songs are needed. TP Song in T8 for Melee, Foe Req and Mages Ballad for Casters Nuking.

[kyuven]

Uhh I dont know what kind of group youre in but a BRDs songs are needed. TP Song in T8 for Melee, Foe Req and Mages Ballad for Casters Nuking.

Foe Req and Mage's Ballad aren't strictly needed. It's not like healers run out of MP in every fight, and in my experience if they ARE there's a wipe coming soon whether or not ballad is up. Foe req is a convenience more than anything and completely pointless if you have no caster DPS in your party.
TP song maybe, but i've only seen one fight where that's cited. Recovery from death doesn't count, as my assumption is against encounters where no one is actually messing up.
Just as there ARE situations where the songs could come in handy or are necessary, there are also situations where they collect dust on the hotbar. Most of the songs are catered towards situations where people are dying. If no one in the party is dying, there's no need to sing.
Again things like t8 and Moggle Mog EX are the exception.

[cookiecutter]

Foe Req and Mage's Ballad aren't strictly needed. It's not like healers run out of MP in every fight, and in my experience if they ARE there's a wipe coming soon whether or not ballad is up.
Again things like t8 and Moggle Mog EX are the exception.

Sure, songs can be situational especially if you're overgeared for content but when it comes to progression bard songs are must. Mp ballad was great for progression in turn 7 since it allowed you to recover from multiple deaths. On turn 8 tp song is great for monk and drgs and mp ballad can be clutch sometimes depending on the situation. Smn's need it too at one point because they don't have infinite resources like blms. On turn 9 foe's requiem is a good way to get out of the heavensfall phase as quickly as possible especially before you outgear it.

[Sapphic]

Uhh I dont know what kind of group youre in but a BRDs songs are helpful. TP Song in T8 for Melee, Foe Req and Mages Ballad for Casters Nuking.

Fixed it for you.

[Danbo05]

My initial reaction.


And then I saw that Akiza was the OP.

[NolLacnala]

What is Foe Requiem?

Posted by a level 50 Archer, oh bother...