Cash shop confirmed

[SpookyGhost]

And selling previous event gear is a good move. I don't mind that, because I payed for a subscription and completed the event. And it makes me happy to know people will have the opportunity to get gear they missed.

While I do think you're definitely on the right track here, and it's certainly not the worst decision they made involving the cash shop, they could just add the items in as 1 gil purchases the next time the event rolls around (as they've already been doing). Unfortunately now that's completely off the table and you'll have to pay for it instead. Just... because. Other than that, I completely agree with the rest of your posts.

[Asierid]

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Vanity. Meaning if you like it, buy it. If you don't, then don't. Considering the majority of the people would have one character and do a one time purchase, it isn't event remotely enough to support the game on it's own. The F2P games can show you this, the cash shop has to have things that players need, and they need them to be bought over and over in order to make any decent money from it.

Way to blow things out of proportion.

[SirEdeonX]

Jumping off a bridge? I think your finding your self in agreeance with what I'm saying about no, just because other people are using the cash shop doesn't mean you have too. It's completely optional and separate from your experience.

Oh, I'm sorry. What I meant with the "jumping off a bridge" comment was: just because a lot of other MMOs use a cash shop. that doesn't mean it's acceptable to do it too, you know?

And don't misinterpret me - I don't want pay to win. I just really want an option to get those items in-game, you know?
I feel like everyone that pays a subscription deserves them

[SeleneSinclair]

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Let's see. It's optional. It's vanity. And, to top it all off, it's in every single MMO (subscription based included) on the planet. If your opinion was the majority, this system wouldn't exist.

If more people felt like you, the only way to solve this issue, is to simply not buy anything out of the cash shop. If it wasn't popular, they wouldn't have the bright idea to put it in. Therefore, your crying and moaning about it essentially accomplishes nothing.

Put your money where your mouth is, and things change. Fin.

[Asierid]

Oh, I'm sorry. What I meant with the "jumping off a bridge" comment was: just because a lot of other MMOs use a cash shop. that doesn't mean it's acceptable to do it too, you know?

And don't misinterpret me - I don't want pay to win. I just really want an option to get those items in-game, you know?
I feel like everyone that pays a subscription deserves them

BUT I PAY A SUB, I WANT WHAT I WANT.

Yeah. Whatever. They're the minority, as much as they are going to complain about it. People wanted it, SE gave it. You got the handful that throw a fit about something without reading into it like they're 5.

[SirEdeonX]

Put your money where your mouth is, and things change. Fin.

I don't actually agree with you.
If anyone that doesn't agree simply don't buy things, they'd still put things up for sale because they'd be getting more money than if they'd put them in-game.

The developers want feedback, and that's what everyone should be giving them - especially when you have a problem. Otherwise, how'd they know if people get unhappy?

So let's just discuss this the best we can, throwing arguments back and forth

[SirEdeonX]

People wanted it, SE gave it.

No one in this world WANTS a cash shop.

You may want the items, and feel compelled to buy them.
You may not care about the cash shop because it's vanity.
But no one wants to pay for something you can't get otherwise.

[Madoka]

I don't think they ever said they were pulling content to be sold in the cash shop. Just because Sleipnir is in there now doesn't mean he won't also be a drop in a trial. They could also do things for the minions, such as anni rewards down the line like Minfilia and Thancred were. Seems to be a "I want it now and here's some money" deal.

[saeedaisspecial]

BUT I PAY A SUB, I WANT WHAT I WANT.

Yeah. Whatever. They're the minority, as much as they are going to complain about it. People wanted it, SE gave it. You got the handful that throw a fit about something without reading into it like they're 5.

So Square Enix works like a Monkey's Paw now? Giving you what you ask for in the worst way possible? No thanks.
When people ask for Sleipnir as a mount, people asked for a way to obtain it in game, the biggest example being via Odin's Mantles. With Urth's Fount becoming a trial (likely 2.5) that is the perfect way to deliver it, but no. We have to pay for it.

[Asierid]

No one in this world WANTS a cash shop.

You may want the items, and feel compelled to buy them.
You may not care about the cash shop because it's vanity.
But no one wants to pay for something you can't get otherwise.

No. But people asked for things like vanity and vials/namechanging to be sold like WoW does. Hell, there are a few threads within the first couple pages now with it.

Again. You want it, you buy it. Not everything comes for free. Just be glad things like XP increases and whatnot are not being sold yet.