ninja gears

[Cynric]

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Yes quite. After all Bard isn't "Ranged" damage, Bard is a melee with Increased Yalms for its AA, and WS, where Dex is the modifier for AP, Everything in FF14 functions very simple. It would of taken quite a very long time to design gear for Ninja for all the Ilvls, so this is a better solution to just get the class and job out there and being played.

They could have just made Rogue be STR and it would of worked the same but I suspect they probably already have a STR class slated for the expansion, making this the better route.

Currently the gear is like this,
VIT:PLD,WAR
STR : MNK, DRG,
DEX: NIN, BRD,
INT:SMN,BLM
MND:SCH,WHM
Now if we do this

VIT:PLD,WAR,TMP
STR: MNK, DRG, DRK
DEX: BRD, NIN, MSK
INT:BLM,SMN, ???
MND:SCH,WHM,???

It makes sense . But of course this is reaching a bit into unknown territory.

[ZReport]

Yes quite. After all Bard isn't "Ranged" damage, Bard is a melee with Increased Yalms for its AA, and WS, where Dex is the modifier for AP, Everything in FF14 functions very simple. It would of taken quite a very long time to design gear for Ninja for all the Ilvls, so this is a better solution to just get the class and job out there and being played.


They could have just made Rogue be STR and it would of worked the same but I suspect they probably already have a STR class slated for the expansion, making this the better route.

Currently the gear is like this,
VIT:PLD,WAR
STR : MNK, DRG,
DEX: NIN, BRD,
INT:SMN,BLM
MND:SCH,WHM
Now if we do this

VIT:PLD,WAR,TMP
STR: MNK, DRG, DRK
DEX: BRD, NIN, MSK
INT:BLM,SMN, ???
MND:SCH,WHM,???

It makes sense . But of course this is reaching a bit into unknown territory.

Right. That also could be a solution. Main stats are tied to the weapons themselves. This allows for literally any weapon to be modified by whatever they want. This also means that the tooltips are nothing more than flavor text that could easily be changed to suit their preferences.

[kiraan]

Am i the only one who understand the DEX , whitemage, and blackmage part as a joke?

NIN will use monk gear, as in using STR gear, the rest is just a joke to remind us how we liked to argue about STR vs DEX.

Anyway, we'll find out next week!

[Cynric]

Right. That also could be a solution. Main stats are tied to the weapons themselves. This allows for literally any weapon to be modified by whatever they want. This also means that the tooltips are nothing more than flavor text that could easily be changed to suit their preferences.

Indeed this is true 100%, DEX STR however do indeed affect Parry Rate and Damage Blocked in the formula. But aside from that exception,the other text is editable and they could literally take those two parts and turn them into substats and the system would function the same. I believe this is what we were arguing about in the first place haha.

After all Second Wind used to scale off INT I believe in beta. People make the mistake of assuming that what the text says is some written law. But the devs made that text in the first place. Changing it is as simple as writing this forum post.

[Yumi_umi]

Well, let the baffling continue lol!
Its as confusing as why there is gp for fishers lol

[KuroganeAre]

With 2.4, NIN will get its own gear. It would be easier just to put Dex on mnk gear for dated material instead of giving all gear for older content.

[Chambers]

well from the stream they made punching motions hinting at monk, then said yes monk gear. then made the dex comment and laughed so I don't know if dex was a joke or not.

much confused.

[Ultimatecalibur]

With 2.4, NIN will get its own gear. It would be easier just to put Dex on mnk gear for dated material instead of giving all gear for older content.

I suspect that pretty much all non-AF/single class ROG/NIN left side gear will be shared with PUG/MNK just like how CON/WHM shares with SCH and THM/BLM shares with ARC/SMN.

[Cynric]

well from the stream they made punching motions hinting at monk, then said yes monk gear. then made the dex comment and laughed so I don't know if dex was a joke or not.

much confused.

Yeah I dunno either, But I'll wait to see the patch notes to determine that, I'm just showing how it'd be possible if it wasn't a joke. Along with the reasoning why they'd choose that option. Being DEX on MNK equipment or being a joke and just being STR, doesn't do anything to me since I have Monk gear plus all the unique DOW dungeon gear anyway.

I've always been pretty much neutral about this. It COULD be DEX because the game let's that choice be easy to do, but it could easily be STR because that's just as easy if not easier to do.

[saber_alter]

Bard gear isn't exactly "Far Easternish" (Martial Arts). I mean how many sets in game really have a martial arts look? Just the Fuma set. It's a one off justification for that set, as it was already heavily Ninja-esque.

Anyways, if you are a main Bard right now, you have an advantage on obtaining gear; reaching i110 at the drop of 2.4 will be relatively quick and painless.

like for allagan, soldiery gear. stuff like that.

the generic stuff that already exists and fits its own theme. fuma is an exception, but couldn't they just add a recolored fuma for ninja?