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  1. #121
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    Starlord's Avatar
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    Luna Sushima
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    Siren
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    Samurai Lv 91
    Quote Originally Posted by Roris View Post
    Optional items for a game are still part of the game, having those items only be available from a cash shop is a very conscious decision about the direction of the game.
    That they really emphasized that they are NOT going toward P2W at all with this feature.

    Stopping your subs will only raise questions to Yoshi-p as to why did a lot of people leave the game for? They will have a hard time figuring it out. If you just don't buy the optional stuff they will see plainly that people don't want that stuff.

    Anyways, Voice your concerns it's very healthy to do so. However, I do not agree that stopping your sub or anyones sub will solve the "Optional" dilemma.
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  2. #122
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    Heskett's Avatar
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    Mili Brand
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    Ultros
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    Dark Knight Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Barboron View Post
    What you're playing is a video game but what you are paying for, that's VERY important because it involves money, is a service. You are paying for a service. This service includes access to the game.

    It's quite clear that there are people now unhappy with the service being provided with the money they are paying.
    They are unhappy because of what they think MIGHT happen to the service that they are paying for. As of right now, it's the same. It's basically crying over spilled milk that might get spilled over but hasn't yet, or may not ever happen.
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  3. #123
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    Stignodding's Avatar
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    Stig Nodding
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    Brynhildr
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    Goldsmith Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Alukah View Post
    That telling people to leave the game is the same as asking for it to die.
    Well I would hate for that to happen as I love this game as much as you, it's why I'm on here trying to reason with the crazy people who think a new shop is gonna ruin their gaming lives. I think they are just looking for reasons to complain, not benefit the game in any way. There are plenty of people that play the game to have fun and they should stick around, the ones that just stick around to find stuff to complain about, I think should leave and take the drama with them.
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    Brynhilder leader of Blood is Power! Where would I be without the family I call my FC and the brothers and sisters in my static? Well, not making amazing memories and just having a good old time would be my first guess. This game is amazing.

  4. #124
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    KrenianKandos's Avatar
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    Krenian Kandos
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    Sargatanas
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    Bard Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Fayto View Post
    You do know your sub fee is just to renew your license to play the game, right? Nothing else.
    I was reading through the thread and this post made me stop dead in my tracks.

    You need to stop now and just step away. You have absolutely no idea what you are taking about if that's what you think your sub is about.

    Seriously. Just stop.
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  5. #125
    Player Skyl1n3's Avatar
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    Sky Lionheart
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    Phoenix
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    Lancer Lv 51
    *sigh* Some people...

    If it's the cost that's the issue, you have bigger things to worry about if you can't afford a few quid every once in a while.

    If it's the fact that others will get nice vanity gear and you won't, suck it up, go get a job and quit crying.

    If it's because you think suddenly they'll have zone entrances with an NPC demanding $5 to pass through to a new zone... you're one sadistic person.
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  6. #126
    Player Alukah's Avatar
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    Alukah Bast
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    Excalibur
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    Goldsmith Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Najara View Post
    I don't mind it. If it helps support the game I encourage the more wealthy players to go crazy.
    Not all money goes to development.

    Quote Originally Posted by Skyl1n3 View Post
    *sigh* Some people...

    If it's the cost that's the issue, you have bigger things to worry about if you can't afford a few quid every once in a while.

    If it's the fact that others will get nice vanity gear and you won't, suck it up, go get a job and quit crying.

    If it's because you think suddenly they'll have zone entrances with an NPC demanding $5 to pass through to a new zone... you're one sadistic person.
    If you are unsure what it is, you haven't been reading other people's posts at all.
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  7. #127
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    saeedaisspecial's Avatar
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    Kool Kat
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    Excalibur
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    Alchemist Lv 50
    With regards to the Odin mount, look at it this way:
    They developed the Odin mount at the same time they developed Urth's Fount Trial.
    At some point during the development process the question must have been raised - Do we make this a drop, similar to the Extreme Primal mounts? Or do we put it into a cash shop.
    This question WILL have come up during the development process. They have clearly chosen the route that will yield them money as opposed to the more fairer for all option.
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  8. #128
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    Gralna's Avatar
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    Gralya Arodica
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    Goblin
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    Scholar Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Alukah View Post
    Not all money goes to development.

    yea, some of it goes into events like fanfest, and website, and forums, and to broadcast things like live letter
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  9. #129
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    charlemagne's Avatar
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    Charlemagne Ifrit
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    Sargatanas
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    Pugilist Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Heskett View Post
    They are unhappy because of what they think MIGHT happen to the service that they are paying for. As of right now, it's the same. It's basically crying over spilled milk that might get spilled over but hasn't yet, or may not ever happen.
    People are complaining now because the dev team have always encouraged feedback. Some of us have been giving our opinions on proposed changes to the game since 1.0. Some of those opinions have shaped the game you play now.
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  10. #130
    Player Skyl1n3's Avatar
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    Sky Lionheart
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    Phoenix
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    Lancer Lv 51
    Quote Originally Posted by Ulathskullsplitter View Post
    Coils is OPTIONAL content too. Doesnt need to be done to advance in the main story. Should they start charging extra for end game raids? Believe it or not poeple play mmos for different reasons and find enjoyment in different things. Because something doesnt effect you doesnt mean it doesnt effect anybody.

    Dont want to pay extra for coil? Then DONT BUY IT! Its OPTIONAL after all.
    When the hell did items like minions/mounts and some vanity gear turn into complete RAIDS?!

    You sound like one of those wacko conspiracy theorists, I assume you're wearing your tin foil hat just incase they announce auto level-up purchases?
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