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  1. #41
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    Vanity stuff counts as content, now?
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    Rori Uguu
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    Quote Originally Posted by Starlord View Post
    Yeah, but you're tying in the Optional "Vanity stuff" as some of the direction of the game. It's not even close to the direction of the game. P2W stuff would be, but not Optional Vanity stuff.
    Optional items for a game are still part of the game, having those items only be available from a cash shop is a very conscious decision about the direction of the game.
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  3. #43
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fayto View Post
    Again, get off your high horse. Luxury items does not harm your enjoyment, this is what we call being greedy.
    I love that you keep saying it because the only person coming across as being on a high horse here is you.
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  4. #44
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mholito View Post
    Vanity stuff counts as content, now?
    Yes, how does it not? Would you be okay if the game was just textureless flat polygons with stick figure skeletons for characters and that you had to pay optional to see each race and zone the way it's supposed to look?
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  5. #45
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    Quote Originally Posted by charlemagne View Post
    We've paid our subscription, always thought that mean't we'd already bought it.
    This! Exactly.

    All of these items were developed using our subscription fee. We have already paid the money to develop them. How is it OK for us to be asked to pay an extra fee for them?

    If these were NEW items developed by a separate team especially for the cash shop then that would be fine. But these were developed by the live team using the money we already paid them. That is NOT OK.
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  6. #46
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    Faye Saotome
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    Quote Originally Posted by Amused View Post
    I love that you keep saying it because the only person coming across as being on a high horse here is you.
    You're the one complaining about a non necessary luxury item ruining your enjoyment of a game. Not only do you have a high horse, but you are extremely greedy.
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  7. #47
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mholito View Post
    Vanity stuff counts as content, now?
    Did it ever not?

    What do you think the word "content" means, exactly?
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  8. #48
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    Lexia Lightress
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    Quote Originally Posted by Amused View Post
    I love that you keep saying it because the only person coming across as being on a high horse here is you.
    I would like to buy a high horse please, oh look at that I can in 2.4
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  9. #49
    Player Amused's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fayto View Post
    You're the one complaining about a non necessary luxury item ruining your enjoyment of a game. Not only do you have a high horse, but you are extremely greedy.
    As a collector, every item is necessary. Part of my fun is collecting as many items in game as I can.

    It's hilarious that you think I'm the greedy one here, and not the S-E double dipping on top of their subscription fee and game/expansion/character service sales.
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  10. #50
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tsukino View Post
    Did it ever not?

    What do you think the word "content" means, exactly?
    I consider content to be actual gameplay, not optional caracter customization. Some people seem to have a problem understanding that not everyone needs to have absolutely everything in the game.
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