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  1. #371
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    Not delaying gl sounds reasonable if you mean that the early ticks from ToD and the debuff from Dragon Kick aren't worth it. I'll try and compare doing them later.

    I have a precision about BfB and IR. I do them before the tank engages so it's not lost time since the battle hasn't started. I shoulder tackle the second he takes agg.

    A question: Why wouldn't you do Howling and Steel Peak in one CD?
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    Dk's debuff didn't affect DoTs
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  3. #373
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    Quote Originally Posted by Empressia View Post
    Dk's debuff didn't affect DoTs
    I was talking about the snap punches.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joeymtl View Post
    Not delaying gl sounds reasonable if you mean that the early ticks from ToD and the debuff from Dragon Kick aren't worth it. I'll try and compare doing them later.

    I have a precision about BfB and IR. I do them before the tank engages so it's not lost time since the battle hasn't started. I shoulder tackle the second he takes agg.

    A question: Why wouldn't you do Howling and Steel Peak in one CD?
    Oh totally forgot i would not pop Bfb and IR in the same CD its a small dps loss too from what i have seen too try to weave in your moves man as for howling and steel never thought about went and tested it doesnt seem to do much of a difference but ill keep it in mind
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joeymtl View Post
    I was talking about the snap punches.
    whats greater?
    10% (dragon kick) damage for the snap punches
    or 9% damage and 5% attack speed (greased lightning) for *insert gcd*

    pretty obvious
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    Aiyza Tenebrae
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aiyza View Post
    For a non-Pb opener, I'm assuming we still use ToD as an opener or wait till gl3???

    And for a non-pb opener, should I use howling fist and steel peak as soon as I can or wait for some gl stacks? Thanks again guys. I used to wait for stacks, but not sure if that is also a dps loss by waiting to use those cooldowns.

    lastly, should i wait to use my buffs (Ir and bfb) only when im in gl3..or it doesnt matter
    any answers to these questions plz? Would appreciate it <3
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    Last edited by Aiyza; 10-12-2014 at 11:11 AM.

  8. #377
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZzPixie View Post
    whats greater?
    10% (dragon kick) damage for the snap punches
    or 9% damage and 5% attack speed (greased lightning) for *insert gcd*

    pretty obvious
    The 9% damage and 5% speed easily. By using dragon kick 2nd instead of 5th in your perfect balance rotation you get a lower damage dragon kick and lose at least 1 autoattack, as well as having 1 lower damage autoattack.
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    Last edited by TheMax1087; 10-12-2014 at 02:32 PM. Reason: Typo

  9. #378
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    So I did the new rotation and my burst in the beginning was around 470-480 on a dummy with I maintained my dps around 440. I'm ilvl107 and not sure if this is right or if I'm still doing something wrong All I used were buttons and 1 x-pot.

    Edit: Well I attempted a second try and was able to maintain my dps around 460! Thx for the tips!! Obviously this was on a dummy so I'm pretty sure unless I'm in a perfect boss fight, I won't reach that often Maybe.
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    Last edited by Aiyza; 10-12-2014 at 03:49 PM.

  10. #379
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    Delayed DK and ToD as suggested, and inserted Twin. Kept IR and BFB first (in this order to keep BFB in sync with Demolish later in the rotation), and howling and steel peak in one CD for the reasons I previously stated. Hopefuly the buffs are being applied on abilities on button press when the animation starts (like the gl refresh) and not at the end of animation, otherwise I'll have to modify it

    http://youtu.be/egopF510-c8
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    Last edited by Joeymtl; 10-12-2014 at 06:46 PM.

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    Dragon kick is TECHNICALLY an 11% dmg buff (9/10 the blunt resistance = 10/9 the damage taken)
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