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  1. #301
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sapphic View Post
    The story in coil is a large part of the reward of clearing coil

    The gear is just a means to an end, and a reason to keep running it after completion.

    The problem I've noticed with most PF/DF parties is that there is no communication before starting the fight, no real communication after wipes (usually nothing or aggresiveness). The party should run through strats before to ensure everyone is on the same page. After wipes discuss what went wrong and how to improve.

    Without communication, things will fail.
    Then can you explain why does primals have story mode then?

    Story isn't a reward - in a RPG game especially, story is actually quite the core, and coil (and CT/ST) actually tells us more about what happen to the Allagans and of course, the transition from 1.X to 2.X. It is especially more important for newer players, and of course non-legacy players. With the move to 3.X next year, there is a lot more lore in FFXIV. Asking the new player to play through them takes a lot of time which isn't necessary as players should be enjoying the latest contents possible. This is a natural point of view as a developer and of course, Yoshida see it this way.
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  2. #302
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    Yoku Dekimashita
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shioban View Post
    Blatant anger, profanity or defamation out of context might count.

    But; "What are you nattering about?" isn't really going to make the 'ban/suspension' cut.



    Then why bother mentioning it in the first place.
    Never said it did...
    The same could be said to your 'Do I need to quote myself." and you told me no...then proceed to do it anyway
    to another poster... .__.

    [I had posted more but I'm done being off-topic about it.]

    OnT - I just don't see the big deal with adding something optional for others lol.
    But since they've mentioned it once wouldn't
    hurt to have more updates later on but don't get mad if they make it stupid because that is what usually happens lol.
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    Last edited by Mugiawara; 09-30-2014 at 01:40 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ooshima View Post
    Story isn't a reward - in a RPG game especially
    I thought story was the reward for progressing in an RPG? You certainly weren't doing it for the loot, because it didn't matter to the same degree that it does in an MMORPG.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sapphic View Post
    The story in coil is a large part of the reward of clearing coil
    That is a downright lie.
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    I have an idea.. Why not have a button to make twintania bend over, then you can go blow all your cooldowns unleash the hurt and then claim your prize.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wyrmnus View Post
    I honestly can't believe the fucking arrogance Im seeing in this thread. Some people just make me sick.
    Just want to quote this post, as it says exactly what I've been wanting to say (in some other threads as well) but never dared for fear of getting banned.
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  7. #307
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    Make it a solo version of coil with some difficulty to it, only rewarding a meaningless achievement and i'll be good with it.
    But careful, not so difficult, we must not frustrate all those crybabies asking for a coil Easy mode.


    PS:Seriously though, as many people said Coil Easy mode has already been added into the game after 2.2.

    Its 20% Echo + nerf.
    Its been dumbed down to the point where T1-T2 High voltage is no longer an issue, whole T2 strategy has already been dumped long ago because of enrage, T4 is no longer a DPS check, and T5 is easy as Titan EX, you just need to memorize the pattern, pay attention and move accordingly asap.
    Also, You should be happy, this coil yields loot.

    About SCoB it will likely be the same as soon as its released for DF.
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    Last edited by CUTS3R; 09-30-2014 at 01:47 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CUTS3R View Post
    T5 is easy as Titan EX,
    Most people I know hate the Titan fight, and it's so rare to see "Titan EX" and "easy" in the same sentence unless "is not" is between them. In addition to the story of the Coil, I've also given up seeing Ifrit EX.

    Have I mentioned that I suck at memorization when I'm not given the opportunities to memorize?
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  9. #309
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    The fact that Ifrit EX is behind Titan EX is beyond me lol.
    They went weird with this one..
    Garuda - Med level.
    Titan - HARD.
    Ifrit - Easy.

    Always been that way but why put the med-hardest before the easier one?

    @Violyre.
    I just finished Garuda EX in a DF. I had fun...but good Jesus Christ...
    I got carried in Titan HM even with friends. It's the friggin' push thing man!
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    Last edited by Mugiawara; 09-30-2014 at 02:08 PM.

  10. #310
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mugiawara View Post
    The fact that Ifrit EX is behind Titan EX is beyond me lol.
    Yeah, I always hear Ifrit EX is a complete joke if you can beat Titan EX. Since I can't, I won't know personally. Ever.

    As I mentioned earlier, I almost quit at normal Titan because I hadn't experienced a hard storyline fight until then. The group I had made it a point to degrade me. It's like that in endgame content too, except now there are seven people to insult me as I try to learn.
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    Last edited by Violyre; 09-30-2014 at 02:09 PM.

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