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    As someone who raids weekly, I see absolutely no problem with having a story mode. If you think the story doesn't matter, then you're playing the wrong series. There is definitely an important story in BC. Watching on youtube is not the same, and you know that.

    As an aside, let me explain something that I haven't seen mentioned: lag.

    And no, this isn't SE's fault, but this is all Verizon customers. There is a node called alter.net, which is a CDN. For the past month or so, Verizon customers playing FFXIV experience huge (around 30%+) packet loss in the hours of 8:00-10:00 pm, at least. This causes severe lag, rubberbanding, and 90k's. I talked to a customer service rep who confirmed that this was an issue that the technicians are going to have to deal with, because it doesn't just affect FFXIV, but anything that hits that node (like Yahoo).

    Why bring this up? This is a perfectly viable reason for players failing, beyond their control. I can't tell you how many times I've failed T7 the past week because the melee adds don't appear on my screen until 5-10 seconds after they actually do, or I outright d/c during the fight. Let me counter any argument you may have before you say it:

    1. "Change ISP's" - My area has Verizon and Comcast available. I'm not going to Comcast. Ever. I actually get fantastic service with Verizon (27ms ping, 85mb/s download whilst paying for 75), it just so happens that anything hitting that node will get fucked up. Everything else is astounding. (Not to mention we signed onto a 2 year contract. The fees for breaking that, with any company, is incredibly high)
    2. "It's SE's fault!" - No, traceroutes and pings prove that the packet loss is occurring at alter.net. If it were SE, it would affect everyone, not just Verizon customers.
    3. "Use a VPN" - That costs money. My monthly internet bill, plus my $10 sub, I'm not adding more to that.

    In conclusion, lag is a perfectly viable reason for not being able to clear content that is beyond your control. Adding a story mode would allow people to enjoy the story of a video game without relying on outside sources.

    If you're a Verizon customer, I highly recommend reporting this problem as much as humanly possible (1 (800) 837-4966). It can be a pain in the ass to deal with, but you could be helping your fellow player and yourself. Also, you might get compensated for your time lost, if you speak to the billing department (I did).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Clavaat View Post

    If you're a Verizon customer, I highly recommend reporting this problem as much as humanly possible (1 (800) 837-4966). It can be a pain in the ass to deal with, but you could be helping your fellow player and yourself. Also, you might get compensated for your time lost, if you speak to the billing department (I did).

    I just switched to verizon and have run into this. I took option C, and throw an extra 5 bucks a month at the problem to make it go away. It sucks but it is what it is. I will, however, call that 1800 number and add my voice to the complaint list.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NyneAlexander View Post
    I just switched to verizon and have run into this. I took option C, and throw an extra 5 bucks a month at the problem to make it go away. It sucks but it is what it is. I will, however, call that 1800 number and add my voice to the complaint list.
    Good man. At the end of the day, if they get enough customers asking for credit back on their bill, they'll probably look harder into solving this. Money talks.
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    If you're stuck in Coil1 I can see it actually being harder to get through in some ways than pre-2.3. One thing that people often forget is that players move on from the old content. There's really no reason to go back and to t5 again any more, none of the gear is relevant.

    Coil isn't supposed to be main story as far as I've ever seen. I can see making it easier in order to help people that are really stuck but making it a freebie cheapens the experience. Maybe remove the instant death wall so dive bombs aren't so bad and twisters one take out the one person.
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    I've had this 30% packet loss issue since the game was launched. That's now 14 months with this problem! My ISP recently informed me that I need to contact their peering provider instead of them and stop harassing them over the issue. I clear T9 weekly and have been for the past 3+ months. It is not an excuse for why you're not able to clear content in this game.

    As for actual discussion on this topic; I am strongly against further dumbing down content in this game because the player base is already insufferably bad at simple things like pushing a button every time the game allows them to push a button. Adding more things that will further lower the incentive to get better at the game is just going to be detriment to everyone's ability to enjoy the game. Some of you have brought up hunts - I considered hunts as my salvation from the insufferable player base. I could get away with not having to do content with people that 9 out of 10 times would disappoint and/or underperform in multiple ways. I did not touch dungeons or trials for the span of 2+ months and it was glorious.

    Now I have to willingly toss myself at these people again to glaze my relic which now has been made the best item you can have until next patch. Hunts provide nothing for the soulglazing part and I can no longer find relief from having to deal with the players of this game.

    Please don't make the player base dumber. It's enough already.
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    Last edited by Vandesaan; 10-01-2014 at 12:08 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vandesaan View Post
    I've had this 30% packet loss issue since the game was launched. That's now 14 months with this problem! My ISP recently informed me that I need to contact their peering provider instead of them and stop harassing them over the issue. I clear T9 weekly and have been for the past 3+ months. It is not an excuse for why you're not able to clear content in this game.
    If your ISP is not Verizon, I don't care. That is a different issue. Lag makes coil unplayable, and that is a fact. How can you possibly explain dodging divebombs or picking up adds when there is at least 10 second delays in everything you do and see on your screen?

    To the rest of your argument, you don't seem to understand that people will not have access to later coils and gear by clearing an easy mode, as explained in the OP. If anything, this would make the playerbase better, as they'd have an avenue for practice. This is purely for storyline purposes.

    As far as development time, they've discussed this possibility before, and it may happen in the next patch. I don't think anyone expects it to actually happen now... OK maybe some of them do. At the end of the day, yes, I agree that it is up to them as to whether or not this would be a possibility. The whole point of creating a thread is to show support for an idea, which might be viable.
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    none of the gear is relevant.
    EVERY gear is relevant.
    FOR GLAMOUR
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    What happened to the days when people would rise up to a challenge instead of asking for a nerf to the content? The average item level of your average player is already higher than the maximum item level obtainable at the time that Turn 5 was current on top of a 20% Echo buff. One-shot mechanics in this game are an absolute joke as well. The only mechanics like that on Turn 5 are Twisters and having the Dreadknight reach you. If you are incapable of holding a movement key for a couple of seconds and not running into anyone else, you have bigger issues. If your groups are incapable of bursting down a single add in the 10 seconds it takes to get to you, you need to seek out better players.

    I understand that everyone has different circumstances as to why they may not be able to complete content as quickly as others, whether it be time constraints, internet connections, or anything else, but I can't say I agree with a "story mode" for content that is already laughably easy. The story, along with the gear and sense of accomplishment, should serve as an incentive to get in there and try to complete the content. Asking for developers to put in a bypass screams "laziness" to me.

    There's a guy named "Aieron" who plays League of Legends who is disabled and has to hit keys by holding a pen with his mouth. If he can get to Gold 5, I'm pretty sure there isn't a single reason (Barring aforementioned internet problems) people can't clear Turn 5 with an echo buff.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Adamantium View Post
    There's a guy named "Aieron" who plays League of Legends who is disabled and has to hit keys by holding a pen with his mouth. If he can get to Gold 5, I'm pretty sure there isn't a single reason (Barring aforementioned internet problems) people can't clear Turn 5 with an echo buff.
    Does he solo que? That's an important detail here lol.
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    Id rather have them make more turns each patch than waste dev time to create yet another mode for coil.
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