It's about time to add Coil story mode, isn't it ?

[BreathlessTao]

If the other seven members can't catch on within a reasonable amonut of time, you have a few choices with this being an MMO:

a) Seek out people who are on your skill and dedication level to clearing new content.
b) Wait till your group overgears the content to a point where poor execution doesn't matter.
c) Watch youtube.
d) Cry about it on the official forums.

a) "Got a third of it down, my dedication level on a 1-10 scale is somewhere around 7.03" - yeah, would go well with the "kill exp only" PFs (which only those put up who, for the most part, already have a static or are looking for one member for their own).
b) If I had / could get a group, I wouldn't be throwing myself against a rock trying DF, would I?
c) Will do, when I want to watch a movie or a music video; not when I'd like to play a game.
d) If it makes you feel better, call it crying; this is the best (the only) place where any kind of opinion about any part of the game has any chance of being heard (public events excluded on account of being very limited in more ways than one).

[Hali]

are you even trying ? prove your claims and come back or please do not come to troll any longer.

Estimation for come 2.4, considering how T5 went after the echo buff was added to it. We'll know the real figures come FanFest and the census. My money is down on around that mark for people clearing T5.

Got numbers for that? Because without them, I'm not buying it. The few census slides I saw didn't mention coil clears, so I'd like to know where your numbers are coming from.

Basic observation skills.
Also, where are your statistics to disprove me?

See my comment above. I've seen plenty of people give up on T5, much less on T6-9.

I'll let the census do the speaking when that comes out. For now though, we'll agree to disagree.

Man, I'm such a troll because I have seen the opposite to what OP has seen in regards to people clearing T5.
Yeah I slipped up and used that stupid point in bold, but can you see how it was never addressed and was completely ignored in the following discussion? Why may I ask? Because it was a stupid and null point.
I'm sticking with my final point of letting the census doing the talking instead of going back and forth with a pointless, "I say this!" "But I say this instead!" with no real statistics other than personal observations.

Stop attacking an ancient point that was already addressed, you fool.

[Taruinatho]

a) "Got a third of it down, my dedication level on a 1-10 scale is somewhere around 7.03" - yeah, would go well with the "kill exp only" PFs (which only those put up who, for the most part, already have a static or are looking for one member for their own).
b) If I had / could get a group, I wouldn't be throwing myself against a rock trying DF, would I?
c) Will do, when I want to watch a movie or a music video; not when I'd like to play a game.
d) If it makes you feel better, call it crying; this is the best (the only) place where any kind of opinion about any part of the game has any chance of being heard (public events excluded on account of being very limited in more ways than one).

With the current state of the game, needing a static for turn 5 is as obsurd as needing a static for Ifrit HM.

[Magis]

Or you can just check youtube for cs/story.

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Yeah... Coil is primarily an encounter. If you just want to see the cutscene without actually doing the fight... go watch it on Youtube. Also a reminder... T5 acts as a attunement to T6. If you are not prepared to down T5, then you aren't going to have a chance with T6.

[Tiggy]

Thousands upon thousands of people have beaten it as is. I don't think this is necessary. We don't need a handout like Ramuh "Hard" and Levi "Hard" are.

20% Echo is enough, and if it's not the better gear in 2.4 will certainly make it so.

[Ulathskullsplitter]

The carrot is what motivates people to do anything in game, it is always that, whether it is storyline progress, loot, a fun fight, whatever you find fun in game, that is your personal carrot. Why does this matter? Because like I have just shown, people will take the easiest, simplest path to what they take and ignore any other, it is a fundamental fact that the player base has shown to be true. If an easy coil is provided, the people that want the story will take said easy path, and ignore the rest of the content, they won't attempt "regular" coil, they won't improve, they will ignore it.

But if all those players want from coil is the story how does them doing that and not improving effect you? With the OPs proposed story mode these players won't be getting any gear so the carrot is still there if they want the gear. If all they want is the story then good for them, they got it. You can't force players to do raids that they don't want to do. The a tory in coil is an important plotline, especially for those from 1.0.

[saeedaisspecial]

But if all those players want from coil is the story how does them doing that and not improving effect you? With the OPs proposed story mode these players won't be getting any gear so the carrot is still there if they want the gear. If all they want is the story then good for them, they got it. You can't force players to do raids that they don't want to do. The a tory in coil is an important plotline, especially for those from 1.0.

I have said how it affects not just me, but everyone. I have said this multiple times.
Please, stop asking this, go read a few pages back, allowing people to continue to be unskilled helps no one.

[Audacity]

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Firstly I never said this can be beaten in a few attempts, 1 or 2 hours practice with some friends is required. God forbid you actually have to practice and learn a fight.

Divebombs are such a simple mechanic as all you have to do is stack and run. The only reasons you get hit by divebombs are:

1: The person with the divebomb was stacked too far ahead of the group.
2: You didn't react fast enough (Which let's face it, the divebomb is the only thing you need to pay attention to at this point)

If anything, The hardest part of Phase 3 are the snakes which you neglected to mention.

The arena is more than big enough for 8 people to spread out for twisters and dreadknights. The ilvl gear and echo make dreads a joke.

The last phase all you have to do is place the off tank into the neurolink to take the egg damage and zerg it down.

Everything sounds harder on paper than it actually is. If do a small bit of research, go in with some friends and practice for a couple of hours. You'll find that this fight isn't as hard as you're making it out to be.

[BreathlessTao]

With the current state of the game, needing a static for turn 5 is as obsurd as needing a static for Ifrit HM.

Yeah, I haven't noticed a whole row of insta-kill "mechanics" in Ifrit HM, but nvm. In any case, nowhere did I say it's needed; point is it's not as easy when all the other 7 are unknown variables. I've had a fair share of wipes even in T1 and T2 (many times the echo doesn't even come into play because people ragequit after the first and the party disbands).

[NyneAlexander]

Yeah, I haven't noticed a whole row of insta-kill "mechanics" in Ifrit HM, but nvm. In any case, nowhere did I say it's needed; point is it's not as easy when all the other 7 are unknown variables. I've had a fair share of wipes even in T1 and T2 (many times the echo doesn't even come into play because people ragequit after the first and the party disbands).

I keep reading your name as "Breathless Taco" for some reason. It keeps reminding me that I want some street tacos. Thanks for that.