It's about time to add Coil story mode, isn't it ?

[DefendPopPunk]

I wouldn't mind something like this. I haven't even attempted T5 once. The elitism/bad attitudes have pretty much robbed me of any interest in doing any content in this game that is difficult enough to cause rage over small mistakes. I can learn mechanics easily, don't get me wrong, I just don't like sitting there listening to bickering and the inevitable disband when one or two people can't hang. I cleared the first three ex primals and that was it for me as far as endgame goes.

[Hali]

What are you talking about?

Please see:

It's equally as arrogant to assert that the devs spend their time on you, who is unwilling to put in the minute effort required to clear something like T5, after all the nerfs and echo buffs they've given to you.

[Teryaani]

It's hardly an elitist point, (my above point is though, know the difference) I only pointed out that the devs should focus on new content instead of patching unbroken old content.

You mean like Savage Coil right? Was I not supposed to mention that? Oh right, that's content for YOU. So that's cool right?

Hmmm... It seems that you're off by quite a large margin when it comes to T5 clears. Considering that PF was filled with T5 groups for the first month or two of 2.2 and now it's devoid of them, we're safe to assume that most people have downed T5.

Got numbers for that? Because without them, I'm not buying it. The few census slides I saw didn't mention coil clears, so I'd like to know where your numbers are coming from.

You and OP may see it as wanting to go through the fights with no rewards and easier mechanics, but to everyone who is against this implementation, it's a waste of an already stretched out dev team's time. They should focus on forwarding the game instead of jumping back to cater to people who can't move in time for Twisters or Cursed Voice.

Here's the thing. You say "waste of developers time" for anything that isn't meant for you. I don't. I'll ask the question another way: What percentage of the game population self identifies as hardcore raiders?

[saeedaisspecial]

Got numbers for that? Because without them, I'm not buying it. The few census slides I saw didn't mention coil clears, so I'd like to know where your numbers are coming from.

This is you.
You're fine saying that X% of the player base can't complete T5, but the moment someone says something different, you stick your head in the sand and say they need to post proof.
The hypocrisy is astounding.

[Ecks007]

After reading 6 pages I still don't understandy why youtube isn't a sufficient answer to this?

It is currently the only alternative, however, watching it on youtube from someone else's game doesn't usually (or at least not always) have the same quality as you would get if you saw it in-game on your own PC/PS4 (lolps3?). Visual and sound quality are usually lowered, at least for me, when watching a youtube video when compared to how my PC can handle the game.

Plus, you know, maybe we'd want to see our own characters interacting with the story characters.

If you don't understand why I would want a story mode Coil, please see the bottom of page 5 for my reasons.

Though I think everybody else's post supporting the idea are equally adequate as well.

[Teryaani]

It's equally as arrogant to assert that the devs spend their time on you, who is unwilling to put in the minute effort required to clear something like T5, after all the nerfs and echo buffs they've given to you.

Are you even reading the things you type? "assert that the devs spend time on you"? You are a freaking textbook definition of arrogance. You're suggesting that the players are worthy of development time. If T6-9 vanished tomorrow, the vast majority of players wouldn't even notice. Who's the larger demographic here? You guys? Nope.

[saeedaisspecial]

Are you even reading the things you type? "assert that the devs spend time on you"? You are a freaking textbook definition of arrogance. You're suggesting that the players are worthy of development time. If T6-9 vanished tomorrow, the vast majority of players wouldn't even notice. Who's the larger demographic here? You guys? Nope.

I'm going to take a page from your book here. Post proof on this or stop bringing it up.

[Moqi]

After reading 6 pages I still don't understandy why youtube isn't a sufficient answer to this?

Becuase it's a stupid answer? The whole game is on youtube. Why play anything.

Hmmm... It seems that you're off by quite a large margin when it comes to T5 clears. Considering that PF was filled with T5 groups for the first month or two of 2.2 and now it's devoid of them, we're safe to assume that most people have downed T5.

I see training parties for T5 on Moogle every single day.

[NyneAlexander]

This has been a very entertaining thread. I see both arguments but I think that I'd have to side on the "give people story mode coil" side. It might be a "side story" but for all intents and purposes, the story in 2nd coil is pretty important and has grave implications on the rest of the narrative. After beating it, I was definitely like "oh snap" and watched all the CS's again back in my inn room to reiterate what I had just seen. It would suck if I wasn't a raider and I never got to see those CS.

Having said that.. they are all on youtube. Having said THAT, youtube should NOT be a requirement to experience any content, particularly game changing cutscenes.

[Teryaani]

This is you.
You're fine saying that X% of the player base can't complete T5, but the moment someone says something different, you stick your head in the sand and say they need to post proof.
The hypocrisy is astounding.

I'll counter anecdotal evidence with anecdotal evidence then.

Hmmm... It seems that you're off by quite a large margin when it comes to T5 clears. Considering that PF was filled with T5 groups for the first month or two of 2.2 and now it's devoid of them, we're safe to assume that most people have downed T5.

No, it's because they've all given up. Players in my old FC threw up their hands in disgust when the 2nd static couldn't handle it. The main static, the best geared players in the FC, spent months beating their heads against it.