It's about time to add Coil story mode, isn't it ?

[saeedaisspecial]

Burden of proof reversal fallacy. You claim statistics, then ask for numbers when asked to show any proof. You need to have better arguments if you want me to take you seriously.

I find it ironic that you chose to target him with this reply, despite the person he was replying to is doing the exact same thing. They were posting statistic far before he did in the thread, but sure, let's attack only Hali because he's the one who's not on your side, right? Not like the only reason he posted that was because of replies like this:

Got numbers for that? Because without them, I'm not buying it. The few census slides I saw didn't mention coil clears, so I'd like to know where your numbers are coming from.

I've seen lots of things here, but seriously...

Can't just people admit that they don't want other people to enjoy stuff they already did ?
Because it all ends like that. That would be the only reason you'd be against an eased version patched months after you had the chance to beat it "the regular way".

It does not affect your gameplay

It does not affect your raiding sphere

It does not give loot to unskilled/unworthy players (choose your favorite word)


It does not take that much time to devs (reduce few numbers, remove a few lines)

Please, do not assume this is how we are. I have posted twice now, with reason on why this is a bad thing, how it affects everyone by allowing people to get by without learning, continuing their cycle of constantly begging for handouts. Go and read them before using this sort of reply again.
This is nothing to do with loot.
This is nothing to do with preventing people from accessing content.
This has everything to do with preventing the perpetuation of dumbing down the game and keeping the player base ignorant and unskilled.

[Wyrmnus]

Clear it with friends. There's no lockout.

So you're assuming EVERYONE has friends? * shakes head *

[Moomba33]

Clear it with friends. There's no lockout.

Don't have any friends who have cleared it.
Most have given up on trying.

[Audacity]

Don't have any friends who have cleared it.

Then get those friends, Form a group of 8 and go in and learn the fight. This way, you won't get people leaving after a few unsuccessful attempts.

You know, Like the rest of us had to do when we cleared it.

[Moomba33]

Then get those friends, Form a group of 8 and go in and learn the fight. This way, you won't get people leaving after a few unsuccessful attempts.

You know, Like the rest of us had to do when we cleared it.

I feel story content shouldn't be locked behind content that requires that much practice.

[Empressia]

Obviously not ppl cant beat turn 5 with the echo buff


What good would that do to kick people that suck? What if the people that suck are fc mates , friends or rl friends you'd be denying them the chance of beating it. And again its obviously not easy to get a t5 win if alot of people still cant get a win

Sorry dude, but i've seen enough "carry me please t5" fc members who got bigheaded and goin t6 only to fail HORRIBLY EPIC

[Moqi]

This has everything to do with preventing the perpetuation of dumbing down the game and keeping the player base ignorant and unskilled.

I have not cleared Titan EX yet, I just can't. I don't know wether it's me or bad parties, but I have never been able to beat it. When they finally unlocked the other Extreme fights, I downed Moogle EX at my first attempt and Leviathan and Ramuh at my second. Just because you can't do one specific thing doesn't mean you can't do everything else.

[Shioban]

Simple, very very simple, I'm sure as it's this easy your first T5 kill only took your static a few trys then?

The rest of us must be really stupid, as it took most of us many hours back in 2.0/2.1 to kill tiwn, yet the machanics were exactly the same as discribed above.

Actually the vast majority of the wipes were caused by our terrible gear and the occasional mistake more than anything.

The actual learning process was extremely easy.

I feel story content shouldn't be locked behind content that requires that much practice.

It was the exact same with FFXI, or any MMO for that matter.

They're going to add a story for this content, crying because "I didnt get to participate in EVERY aspect of the game" is just sad.



CAN they add this? Yes, they're considering methods for it.

Are they likely to do it as described by the OP? Not likely.


The entire story is available for your viewing pleasure, RIGHT NOW.
If you just want to know the story, then skipping the fights won't be that big of an issue for you.

[Exstal]

I feel story content shouldn't be locked behind content that requires that much practice.

However, Coil is optional. It's a side quest. It's not the main story, which is probably why it doesn't currently have a story mode.

Sorry dude, but i've seen enough "carry me please t5" fc members who got bigheaded and goin t6 only to fail HORRIBLY EPIC

Which, if recorded, would be comedy forever.

[saeedaisspecial]

Don't have any friends who have cleared it.
Most have given up on trying.

So what you're saying is, the only way you'd do coil "with friends" is if you were doing it with people who have already completed it? Do you people only want content if it comes with handouts at every step of the journey?
There's nothing stopping you, as a group of friends together, learning coil, I don't know about you, but that's how I've made my best friends in this game and I've become closer with each and every one of them while learning content together.

So you're assuming EVERYONE has friends? * shakes head *

I would hope so. Making friends is a universal trait, I can't imagine someone going through an MMO without making friends. Do you not have any linkshells? DO you just play the game like a single player game, interacting with no one? If so, maybe a single player game is the better solution for you.