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    Quote Originally Posted by Yoninxi View Post
    *slow blink* As if 20% echo in The first coil and soon to be second coil isnt enough
    Obviously not ppl cant beat turn 5 with the echo buff
    Quote Originally Posted by Yoninxi View Post
    I'm sorry , its too easy to get a T5 win nowadays. If you can't win, you aren't trying hard enough. Make your own kill party and kick people who are trying to get carried or just flat out suck.
    What good would that do to kick people that suck? What if the people that suck are fc mates , friends or rl friends you'd be denying them the chance of beating it. And again its obviously not easy to get a t5 win if alot of people still cant get a win
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    Quote Originally Posted by SevValen View Post
    Obviously not ppl cant beat turn 5 with the echo buff
    If you can't win turn 5 with 20% echo, it's not twintaina its you. There are only 4 or 5 mechanics that 3 or 4 mechanics that will murder you. Everything else is recoverable if you fail at it.
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    I'm not really against the idea of a story coil, so +1 OP, but another thought I had is couldn't you guys wait a couple months until ilvl 150~ gear makes it even easier?
    It gets easier with each update just because of the higher level of gear that's available (without even taking Echo buff into account), so I kinda get the feeling that in a few more months it will already FEEL like a story mode. It seems to me that by the time they would even get around to implementing a story coil (months obviously cause everything takes forever), you definitelyyyyy wouldn't need it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KikInperi View Post
    I'm not really against the idea of a story coil, so +1 OP, but another thought I had is couldn't you guys wait a couple months until ilvl 150~ gear makes it even easier?
    It gets easier with each update just because of the higher level of gear that's available (without even taking Echo buff into account), so I kinda get the feeling that in a few more months it will already FEEL like a story mode. It seems to me that by the time they would even get around to implementing a story coil (months obviously cause everything takes forever), you definitelyyyyy wouldn't need it.
    I'd reckon even with i150 gear, the people who are stuck now , will still be stuck because they can't negotiate twisters, dive bombed, and conflagrations.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KikInperi View Post
    I'm not really against the idea of a story coil, so +1 OP, but another thought I had is couldn't you guys wait a couple months until ilvl 150~ gear makes it even easier?
    It gets easier with each update just because of the higher level of gear that's available (without even taking Echo buff into account), so I kinda get the feeling that in a few more months it will already FEEL like a story mode. It seems to me that by the time they would even get around to implementing a story coil (months obviously cause everything takes forever), you definitelyyyyy wouldn't need it.
    I believe that in i160 gear, people will still fail Twintania unless they make it so that twisters don't instantly kill, and the flame wall doesn't instantly kill. As long as they keep that, people will still be blocked by it. Gear does not cure bad (or lag).

    Quote Originally Posted by Moqi View Post
    And this affects all of you how? Oh wait, it doesn't. But "my shiny" or something.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Exstal View Post
    I believe that in i160 gear, people will still fail Twintania unless they make it so that twisters don't instantly kill, and the flame wall doesn't instantly kill. As long as they keep that, people will still be blocked by it. Gear does not cure bad (or lag).
    i160 would be next expansion pack and I doubt that they don't nerf Twintania with 3.0
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    Quote Originally Posted by SevValen View Post
    What good would that do to kick people that suck? What if the people that suck are fc mates , friends or rl friends...
    What good are 'friends' if you can't be honest? I'm in a static with a healer buddy and if he does something bad, I tell him, and if I mess up, he tells me. I tell my own husband that he needs to improve if he's not doing what he is suppose to.

    I'm not going to lie to someone and tell them they are doing good when they aren't, friend or not. If you can't be honest with your friend(s) then what kind of friendship is that?

    Back to OP: Doesn't bother me either way, if no loots and no unlocks, then it shouldn't effect anything/anyone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lilyanna View Post
    What good are 'friends' if you can't be honest? I'm in a static with a healer buddy and if he does something bad, I tell him, and if I mess up, he tells me. I tell my own husband that he needs to improve if he's not doing what he is suppose to.

    I'm not going to lie to someone and tell them they are doing good when they aren't, friend or not. If you can't be honest with your friend(s) then what kind of friendship is that?

    Back to OP: Doesn't bother me either way, if no loots and no unlocks, then it shouldn't effect anything/anyone.
    I think these people are aware they're not good enough to beat it as is, hence this thread, but they still want to play together. I think kicking people defeats the purpose of playing for some people, I don't think it's about not being honest with each other... I'm still friends with my friends who aren't good at video games =P
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lilyanna View Post
    What good are 'friends' if you can't be honest? I'm in a static with a healer buddy and if he does something bad, I tell him, and if I mess up, he tells me. I tell my own husband that he needs to improve if he's not doing what he is suppose to.

    I'm not going to lie to someone and tell them they are doing good when they aren't, friend or not. If you can't be honest with your friend(s) then what kind of friendship is that?

    Back to OP: Doesn't bother me either way, if no loots and no unlocks, then it shouldn't effect anything/anyone.
    Did I mention anything about lying or telling someone not to improve whether its a friend or not?No I didnt in fact that's a great way to help them so one day if you guys still haven't cleared it you have a higher chance of clearing it than before. There's nothing wrong with helping peple you know get through it which was the point of that post you quoted.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lilyanna View Post
    What good are 'friends' if you can't be honest? I'm in a static with a healer buddy and if he does something bad, I tell him, and if I mess up, he tells me. I tell my own husband that he needs to improve if he's not doing what he is suppose to.

    I'm not going to lie to someone and tell them they are doing good when they aren't, friend or not. If you can't be honest with your friend(s) then what kind of friendship is that?

    Back to OP: Doesn't bother me either way, if no loots and no unlocks, then it shouldn't effect anything/anyone.
    I hope you are giving tips on how to improve because telling someone that he needs to improve without telling how is kind of mute point since he will have no clues where to improve and how ?

    Besides, I am pretty sure you not going to kick your buddy friend or husband as opposed to someone you dont know right when that someone messes up ?

    I would call this hypocrite ...wouldnt you ?

    IN this thread there is so much of higher then though attitude that is annoying to say the least, as if everybody that is that higher then though were born with insta knowledge when probably they might have been carried or had friends to put up with their dumbness for long period of times until they got it right...

    again hypocrite ? yeah very muchs o

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