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    Quote Originally Posted by Audacity View Post
    Clear it with friends. There's no lockout.
    Don't have any friends who have cleared it.
    Most have given up on trying.
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    Last edited by Moomba33; 09-30-2014 at 04:19 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moomba33 View Post
    Don't have any friends who have cleared it.
    Then get those friends, Form a group of 8 and go in and learn the fight. This way, you won't get people leaving after a few unsuccessful attempts.

    You know, Like the rest of us had to do when we cleared it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Audacity View Post
    Then get those friends, Form a group of 8 and go in and learn the fight. This way, you won't get people leaving after a few unsuccessful attempts.

    You know, Like the rest of us had to do when we cleared it.
    I feel story content shouldn't be locked behind content that requires that much practice.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Moomba33 View Post
    I feel story content shouldn't be locked behind content that requires that much practice.
    However, Coil is optional. It's a side quest. It's not the main story, which is probably why it doesn't currently have a story mode.

    Quote Originally Posted by Empressia View Post
    Sorry dude, but i've seen enough "carry me please t5" fc members who got bigheaded and goin t6 only to fail HORRIBLY EPIC
    Which, if recorded, would be comedy forever.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Exstal View Post
    However, Coil is optional. It's a side quest. It's not the main story, which is probably why it doesn't currently have a story mode.
    Very true. I personally feel the coil story is significant enough to the main story that it shouldn't be gated.
    Of course the decision is ultimately up to SE.
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    My perspective is one of a fan of the single player FF games as opposed to MMOs in general.
    I am well aware I will never beat the top content in a MMO without dedicating time to practicing and forming a static team. I am fine with that.

    I am disappointed that this game (and XI too? Never played) places story content behind the tougher fights. I don't recall anything nearly as significant as Coil's storyline happening when you beat the superbosses in other FFs.

    And yes, I would love an eventual story mode of t6+ as well.
    It is of course up to SE whether or not this is a good idea or a worthwhile investment of resources.
    I am simply saying it's something I would enjoy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Moomba33 View Post
    My perspective is one of a fan of the single player FF games as opposed to MMOs in general.
    I am well aware I will never beat the top content in a MMO without dedicating time to practicing and forming a static team. I am fine with that.

    I am disappointed that this game (and XI too? Never played) places story content behind the tougher fights. I don't recall anything nearly as significant as Coil's storyline happening when you beat the superbosses in other FFs.

    And yes, I would love an eventual story mode of t6+ as well.
    It is of course up to SE whether or not this is a good idea or a worthwhile investment of resources.
    I am simply saying it's something I would enjoy.
    I don't buy it, not one bit.
    How can you claim to be a fan of previous FF titles when the previous games have had tons of difficult bosses, which, by the way, gate storyline progress just as much as coil does. Secret bosses, even some of the final bosses or mid-point bosses have been very, very difficult walls. Do you know what we did back then? We either grinded to be overleveled (Let's say this would be akin to echo) or you bashed your head against the wall until you beat it.
    What is the difference here, really? Why is the fact this is an MMO so different to what we did in the other games?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Moomba33 View Post
    I feel story content shouldn't be locked behind content that requires that much practice.
    If you were even half decent players, It wouldn't take you more than a couple of hours.

    Your other alternatives are watching the cutscene on Youtube or buying a win if it bothers you that much.

    And even if you beat it, The story continues through second coil, Are you going to ask for a free Turn 6 win next?

    It doesn't matter what excuse you bring to the table. There's always an answer for it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Moomba33 View Post
    Don't have any friends who have cleared it.
    Most have given up on trying.
    So what you're saying is, the only way you'd do coil "with friends" is if you were doing it with people who have already completed it? Do you people only want content if it comes with handouts at every step of the journey?
    There's nothing stopping you, as a group of friends together, learning coil, I don't know about you, but that's how I've made my best friends in this game and I've become closer with each and every one of them while learning content together.

    Quote Originally Posted by Wyrmnus View Post
    So you're assuming EVERYONE has friends? * shakes head *
    I would hope so. Making friends is a universal trait, I can't imagine someone going through an MMO without making friends. Do you not have any linkshells? DO you just play the game like a single player game, interacting with no one? If so, maybe a single player game is the better solution for you.
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