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    Uielyave's Avatar
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    Rahn'a Lihzeh
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    Balmung
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    Archer Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Exstal View Post
    results in finding a way to discourage those who don't have a heart of iron to give up and pursue other options.
    All I've seen with anything you post is a whole lot of self-proclaiming "no one else should have it easier because I want to be special" BS.
    The more you try to defend this horrible design, the more you look to be someone who is incredibly selfish. Many players would love to work on their weapons, but they are played with this unfun and unfair RNG bullcrap that doesn't "Cull the pack", it discourages players and therefore can cause people to quit and lose interest in the game. I'm not sure SE wants that, and many people sure as heck don't want that.
    As I said before, just because you happened to be lucky and are perfectly okay with mindlessly grinding fates, doesn't mean others are OK with it as well. Also, luck =/= effort or skill.

    Quote Originally Posted by Raxion View Post
    People saying that they farmed for days and weeks without getting anything, I gotta call BS. Doing FATEs for an hour does not count as farming for a day. If you 'really' sit down and get busy for a good 5-6 hours of FATE grinding, you'll usually walk away with at least 1. I have one near-Nexus, and one Animus weapon. Neither of them took me more than 5 solid days of FATE grinding to finish. Sure, RNG is RNG, but even if you were to have the worst luck imaginable, you'd still be getting Atma if you were actually 'farming' for them, and not giving up after 10 FATEs.
    It's not worth it or enjoyable for many people to "Sit down" and chase after the same fates over and over again, many times missing fates they needed because they may be too far away, being halfway across a zone, or are being completed too fast. There are many variables that make this grind horrendously frustrating.
    Just because you got one atma after a 5-6 hour grind doesn't mean that other people want to do that. Many are seeing their friends either quit or move ahead of them because RNG is not being kind. Luck is not something that works well in this game for something like a relic upgrade. Many of my friends are discouraged, saddened, and ready to quit because they can't keep up with other members of our FC or friends of their own.
    It was amazingly fun to get over the hurtles of the Hard mode primals as a group, but with the Atma grind, you can't do that anymore. Many people get left behind, and that's never a good feeling.
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    Last edited by Uielyave; 09-27-2014 at 02:27 PM.

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