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    Quote Originally Posted by Granyala View Post
    So why exactly are the 400 Fates another person does w/o getting rewarded worth less than my 390 Fates that netted me the weapon I desired?

    People like you LOVE to throw around buzzwords like "instant gratification", "handouts" or "entitlement" but fail miserably when it comes to understanding the actual problem of the atma grind.

    Hint: It's not that it's a time consuming grind.
    Whatever, you're just speaking roundabout nonsense as everyone else here and will do so for a long time to come. I did over 350 FATEs for one of my Atma for Ninja. And about another 400 for the rest. So what? You stop complaining and keep going. All of you complainers knew upfront that this was going to be a grind. Yoshi-P even stated as much himself. It would not be easy to suffer not seeing a drop for a while. And yet it's casual content -- content you can go at your own pace. Entitlement creeps in when players want what they want immediately, sooner or as soon as seeing someone else get it.

    I call you players entitled because you want something given to you easily and don't want to go through the trials that other people go through to get what they want. If you don't have it your way, you cry moan and complain that the system and the world is unfair to you. Trust me when I say I understand the problem with the grind. However, it's one thing to understand the grind, and another to deal with it and keep it moving if it's for something you want. If it wasn't complaining about Atma, it would definitely be complaining about something else in the relic questline regardless.

    Some people can go 100-200 FATEs and get all 12 Atma. Some people will go 800+ or even 1000+. It happens. However, common math will prove that going 800 or 1000+ FATEs is far more unlikely than going 200~600 FATEs. So really what are you complaining about? That you have to keep going and see no return? Tough luck. Man up or quit and do UAT/Ramuh/High Allagan like other quitters. Or wait until the eventual nerf.

    By the way, it's also a grind to get Ramuh & High Allagan weapons as well (and Leviathan Mirrors before it). Much more difficult than farming Atma with all that's required. But still people deal with it and grind.
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    Last edited by ZReport; 09-27-2014 at 08:57 AM.

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