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    Quote Originally Posted by Granyala View Post
    Yes ~400-500 seems to be the average and I do indeed agree that it is an acceptable amount of effort for a supposedly special weapon.
    However in good game design you would narrow the outliers esp on the negative end.

    You'd see to it that there are no people that would need say, target average + 30%.
    It's really easy to implement:
    Guaranteed drop after 59 FATEs for a 700 FATE worst case scenario.

    Sheer DEV lazyness or the sadistic need to weed people out via RNG is the reason why they didn't implement it.
    And this is why I call it bad design.


    An extreme minority that simply spoken: Should not exist.
    Not only because it is frustrating to these players but also because it creates a lot of totally unnecessary drama, as shown by the countless atma complaint threads.

    BTW: Nexus grind surely sounds horrible. 500x the same boss? Ouch!
    Eventually that's what the purpose of relic will be, I will assume now. Much like FFXI's relics, they will be harder and harder to come by, and you'll start to see more and more people with unfinished weapons due to giving up. Despite this, it will still be casual content that people can do at their pace. You don't need to join a well trained static, there's no real obligation needed except copious amounts of time (and/or money, considering Animus -> Novus stage).

    It's not so much a sadistic need to weed out players over it being a business decision. The devs understand that these weapons carry a level of prestige from FFXI, as well as legendary weapons from WoW. It's more or less the same thing, it's a control to keep players playing because they know said players want said items. I know some people who grind for these weapons just because some weapons can be exceptionally bright, shiny and gaudy and just cool (or silly) to look at. I know others who obtained the weapons because it was a poorman's alternative and no real work required. Even more so do I know people who want it for the eventual relic change into the weapons of legend.
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    Last edited by ZReport; 09-27-2014 at 09:33 AM.

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