Goodbye cleric stance.. you will be sorely missed

[Avirex92]

Took a short break from SCH after I hit r35 lastnight. Decided to try MNK. Won 3 out of 5 matches, came in 2nd for other 2 matches. Oh, all of these were w/o healers. Guess you do not need healers to win, or I was just really lucky.

[Gor]

Took a short break from SCH after I hit r35 lastnight. Decided to try MNK. Won 3 out of 5 matches, came in 2nd for other 2 matches. Oh, all of these were w/o healers. Guess you do not need healers to win, or I was just really lucky.

no u don't need healers to win. just people with competence. the upside of being all dps is that you can out-damage the heals if you're focusing, just need everyone on the same page because having split dps with no healer isn't going to end well.

[Nekomataempusin]

Better edit that post. That's sacrilege to healers that think they should be the best at everything, and that's not OP at all.

Careful with that kind of language here. This thread is only for those that disagree with the change.

Both of you need to stop talking. I'm a WHM and I see the long scale ramification of this.
Copestetic; Your sarcasm is not needed nor wanted. As many people have pointed out, SCH does not heal as strongly as WHM because they are a hybrid class of DPS and Heals. Also, what happens when all those PvP skill that take off debuffs instantly are used up and recharging? Any healer would be screwed because interrupts are going to assail them.
Lucke Arrayo; You are a tank. If you do not play a healer class you do not understand the shit we put up with. While we are on the subject, how about you tanks ONLY tank.
If a healer is backed into a corner, be it WHM or SCH, and they keep getting interrupted and all their PvP skills/Fixes for debuffs are used up, do you HONESTLY think they will survive? No. Do not insult the intelligence and valid concerns of those who this affects most of all.

[Gor]

If a healer is backed into a corner, be it WHM or SCH, and they keep getting interrupted and all their PvP skills/Fixes for debuffs are used up, do you HONESTLY think they will survive? No. Do not insult the intelligence and valid concerns of those who this affects most of all.

this. exactly. personally when this happens to me, i abandon ship. if i know i'm running out of of arseniles in my bag of tricks, i run. i don't even entertain that battle because i know i'll be a dead man. what i do to stay alive if that happens is i try to save swiftcast+stoneskin so i can make a clean run for it or try to slip out the door before anyone sees me lol.

[Gor]

this. exactly. personally when this happens to me, i abandon ship. if i know i'm running out of of arseniles in my bag of tricks, i run. i don't even entertain that battle because i know i'll be a dead man. what i do to stay alive if that happens is i try to save swiftcast+stoneskin so i can make a clean run for it or try to slip out the door before anyone sees me lol.

which, btw, gives players who aren't paying attention the illusion that i'm zomg overpowered healer! because i slipped through their fingers like Batman and didn't die.

p.s.: yea i replied to myself ... sue me

[Zyphione]

which, btw, gives players who aren't paying attention the illusion that i'm zomg overpowered healer! because i slipped through their fingers like Batman and didn't die.

p.s.: yea i replied to myself ... sue me

You should make guide on how to play SCH in many situation, take video clip to show how you escape and teach many your ways. That way you teach many player how to play healer and frontline become popular again! Maybe will have legacy also since all player read your thread.

They need light in the darkness!

[Divinemight]

which, btw, gives players who aren't paying attention the illusion that i'm zomg overpowered healer! because i slipped through their fingers like Batman and didn't die.

p.s.: yea i replied to myself ... sue me

At least you are better off that that Pre3vial guy. You are just having hard time to get out that grief over Cleric Stance nerf. That guy is acutally using either an alt char or alt account to necro all his dead threads just to preach his non senses.

[Zyphione]

If a healer is backed into a corner, be it WHM or SCH, and they keep getting interrupted and all their PvP skills/Fixes for debuffs are used up, do you HONESTLY think they will survive? No. Do not insult the intelligence and valid concerns of those who this affects most of all.

Only valid concern in thread is personal concern. See below example.
If just 1 person then it is [healer fault].
If 2 person then [2 person is better player than healer].
If 3 person then [is suppose to happen].
If 4 person then [too bad].
If 5 person then [why talk about it? you are not tank].
If LB then [not enough vit stat].

This example mentioned many time by many people? If read from page 1 on 3 thread made about this, then question would all be answered.

[Nekomataempusin]

Only valid concern in thread is personal concern. See below example.
If just 1 person then it is [healer fault].
If 2 person then [2 person is better player than healer].
If 3 person then [is suppose to happen].
If 4 person then [too bad].
If 5 person then [why talk about it? you are not tank].
If LB then [not enough vit stat].

This example mentioned many time by many people? If read from page 1 on 3 thread made about this, then question would all be answered.

Thank you for reminding me of you. I see you in a lot of the forums defending this decision. Are you a healer? If not, I advise you stop talking. You're a BRD, one of the many classes that's able to INTERRUPT our casts. Again, re-read my post, because once we use our PvP skill up, then that's it. Sorry but most of us do not like to be your punching bag. Why are all these people who don't play heals preaching about how easy it is?

[Divinemight]

Thank you for reminding me of you. I see you in a lot of the forums defending this decision. Are you a healer? If not, I advise you stop talking. You're a BRD, one of the many classes that's able to INTERRUPT our casts. Again, re-read my post, because once we use our PvP skill up, then that's it. Sorry but most of us do not like to be your punching bag. Why are all these people who don't play heals preaching about how easy it is?

Ha ha, this is so classic

1. Devs listen to carebears
2. Healer haters
3. You dont have an arguement because you havent try healer
4. You are all whinners
5. Learn to play.

Pretty bad at it too. You better check his profile first before you throw that out. I am seeing he has a white Mage. If you want to attack me, I am start to playing BLM on the Frontline too. Scholar has egi that scaled off master's gear and function with around 70% of master's healing ability. I also start to see a lot of non tunnel vision Paladins actively protecting the healer with stuns.

If you are end in a situation in your scenario, it usually mean your team is wiped and you are just going to die like rest of jobs when out numbered. There are many you tube videos of good healer pov, watch it. This is not 1990s where you can say anything you want on the forum without providing reference.

I have played around 700 Frontlines by now and I am not buying any story that portraying all Paladin players are tunnel visioned gimped dps wannabe that won't assist when healer is in trouble. There are more than enough of good Paladins on the Frontline and stop dirt their name just because you are being salty.

You don't like bard, but bard is also just a punch bag in front of Monk and Dragoon, what makes you so special? My warrior's throw weapon is 300 per hit when Bard only did like 60 to 120 on me, do you think they like that too? It I a all doe the game balance.