Goodbye cleric stance.. you will be sorely missed

[Divinemight]

Yea, like you are the only one being salty here.

[kisada]

just waited 2 hours for a 24 man match in frontlines. this is just all wrong.

[Hailie]

My main class in PvP is a WHM, and I'm leveling my SCH to play it as well, if that can answer your question.

Thanks for answering my Question

[Hailie]

Yea, like you are the only one being salty here.

I'm being salty here? but you made a statement about me in someone else post? lol

I'm the 1 being salty here? lol

[Domira]

So why do BLM/SMN have heal spells if they are meant to just do damage? It's so clear that I'm biased because of two reasons:

1. I never played a healer in PVP.
2. I can't accept teamwork as a solution to overcome my own shortcomings.

I corrected some things for you.

[Houston009]

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...ealer-Stacking.

What should have happened.

[Zyphione]

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...ealer-Stacking.

What should have happened.

The opening poster for that thread looks very similar to you!

[Houston009]

The opening poster for that thread looks very similar to you!

IKR omigursh!

[Divinemight]

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...ealer-Stacking.

What should have happened.

After re-read those reponses on your thread and watching this video again:

www.youtube.com/watch?v=PBQ7K_aMpBM

/sigh

[Divinemight]

Not going to hide it. Japanse community is having same discussion:

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...2691-パッチ2.38総合

They beleived that WHM and SCH need to be tune down, but do not prefer disable an action entirely instead of adjusting it.

Oh WoW!! I didnt know there is 20 posts daily limit on this fourm. I guess I will reply you here.

The opinions are not much different there to here if only looking at logical thought if this thread have any. They discuss on borderline that healers have also become boring but because they feel like punching bag? Last page has listing and mention that class has ability to do too many things at bottom of page? I do not know if you agree that tuning down would be better idea? Still makes healer strong in highlighted situation after reading through thread.
I do not feel that anything has change playing FL games even after stance was remove but at least SCH do not visit base alone and spend more time healing party.

Back in other thread, I believed that it is fine for the players to enjoy healer as dps role, as long as there is a form of peanlty. I was strongly emphaiszing Cleric Stance back there and beleived that it should be adjusted. Increase healing reduction further instead of being low 20%. My idea number is maybe around 80% healing reduction and make them perform like WoW's shadow priest with the shadow form.

Yet, I got crucified. They never provide me any counter arugment to explain why they would need Cleric Stance in order to be function in Wolf's Den and Frotnline. I have asked Kalie in the other thread and Gor in this thread, but never received any response. I have WHM to lvl 37 and I really can not see why you need Cleric Stance in order to be function as a healer unless you are going to spec into INT attributes with vit accessories and playing as a DPS.

It sounds like a doomsday scenario here that there will be no healer. In reality. the Frontline matches yesterday is same as usual. Clearly, this has no impact on the Frontline. I do not beleive that their concern is relate to the Wolf's Den either. If you are already busy with survival from 3 dps attacking you in the Wolf's Den, why would you turn on Cleric Stance at all?

That table near the end is that player's evaluation on each job's overall rating by dividing into 4 categories:

Offense
Healing
Crow Control
Ability to Knockback.