Dungeons and ANGRY PEOPLE !

**NorthernLadMSP** · 09-16-2014 05:15 AM

I try to be as nice, and fun as possible. I'm never rude to people, unless they ask for it. I'll give you an example. Ran a lot of Frontlines over the weekend trying to get from Rank 38 to 40 (which I did accomplish). I've had numerous people that end up with me in groups over and over. One even told me he was excited to see my name in the party list, because everytime he gets in a group with me, he has a blast.

However, one of the battles, Maelstrom was losing. One person on another team took it upon themselves to start ranting and raving in alliance chat about how we were such "tards" and went on and on multiple times insulting the whole alliance. At first, I thought, ok I'll respond in a semi-joking way, and said "we couldn't have done it without you." He started mouthing off again.

Very next battle, I get stuck with this same person, this time in the same group. He ran off doing his own thing leaving the team (C which typically goes to Temple) one person short. When we got there, the enemy team had two full teams waiting. I typed in party chat something along the lines of, "there's too many of them, let's try something else."

Immediately I got a response from him. "Hey you're the tard from the last battle." So, twice instigating insults and name-calling over one battle (which we ended up winning the second battle). Really sad, but got me pretty furious at the same time.

People can be horribly rude and childish no matter if you're running Sastasha, SCOB or something meant purely for fun like Frontlines.

**MomomiMomi** · 09-16-2014 05:32 AM

Believe what you want. Probably at least 90% of my runs, not one word is ever said other than "Hello." It's not that much of a stretch to see how someone can go without meeting rude players.

**ExKage** · 09-16-2014 06:08 AM

I leveled my first 50 back in Nov-Dec.I received none of the vitriol people are saying -must- have happened. I did Brayflox HM runs all the time in DF. In all the time there, I had only 1 tank be an ass and we shut the man up fast. Yes, healers have been slow even in first proclaimed, "speed run ok" runs. Healer slowed to open a door etc. I even had a healer go "shit. I think I just heard gunshots" All of us were just cool about it.

Yes a lot of people can be dicks, but seriously don't over generalize and say that every person who levels in low levels, first 50 or last to 50, is going to experience a shitty time when they say they're new. I never had an issue in the low level dungeons. Even when I sucked at Ifrit HM and got hit by charges and plumes for my first relic (which took 3 weeks to obtain, no trials roulette etc). I never once had a person in my own party who is new or when I was new either slow the dungeon run down or cause a wipe or even say they're new cause the group to vote abandon.

What has caused vote abandon? Three-four wipes to the same boss for the same reasons even though multiple times it's stated how to clear things efficiently. Or CT wipes.

Edit: When I got to 50, my computer had a stick of faulty ram that I didn't know about until I finished the main story. That meant I had a lot of crashes of the game. I never got booted or had people leave.
They certainly could have left when it happened 1-4 times a run.

**SummonerSenah** · 09-16-2014 06:16 AM

I've encountered rude people in endgame dungeons more than anything pre-50. On the other hand, I usually don't give out advice in low levels so I've never gotten the "don't tell me how to play" response.

**Kosme** · 09-16-2014 06:51 AM

I feel sorry for new people trying to get into an MMO that is more than just a few months old. It's so easy to skate to end game these days, that just months after release there's already a large portion of the population who have a "been there, done that" attitude to much of the content. These people were able to run through the game and experience content when everyone was new, and making mistakes and being imperfect was more acceptable. Less pressure, more fun.

Enter new generations of players months later, years later, who have to experience a trial by fire as the sole newbie while grouping for much of the game. It can be tough to build and maintain guilds for new players once the game has lost its "new" feel, so making acquaintances isn't always easy, either.

The sad thing is, you just kinda have to deal with the rudeness and the anger if/when you experience it. Try to run things as much as you can with any friends you've made.

I like to hit people when they talk to me.

**MomomiMomi** · 09-16-2014 07:09 AM

Originally Posted by Kosme

I like to hit people when they talk to me.

I remember you now!!!

**NyarukoW** · 09-16-2014 07:23 AM

**Alipoprocks** · 09-16-2014 07:42 AM

I think this thread is a perfect example of why it is detrimental to be able to level so quickly. I mean, I get that most MMO players have played lots of games by now and don't have the time or patience for leveling. But leveling should be a learning process. And I think that process is diminished by being able to level so quickly and effortlessly.

People are able to level so quickly that new players don't have time to even notice they are missing something and then get berated by other players for it.

For example, it would probably be a good idea for classes to stop advancing their level until they do the class/job quests. Because those quests, at least one of them anyway, forces you to level the cross class before you can advance your job quests.

**NyarukoW** · 09-16-2014 08:02 AM

Originally Posted by Alipoprocks

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People are able to level so quickly that new players don't have time to even notice they are missing something and then get berated by other players for it.

Leveling quick is not the problem. People being mean to other people that is the problem. Slowing down leveling won't help people learn group play any faster, actually it will make slower. And in the process if people were to berate others, they would be doing it there too. People behaving badly needs to be discouraged. The number of experienced player only increases over time and the choice/opportunity to be nice or mean to new player is going to be going to be in the hands of the experienced player 99% of the time, why is it so hard for the experienced player choose to be nice all the time?

**Mugiawara** · 09-16-2014 08:14 AM

Originally Posted by NyarukoW

Leveling quick is not the problem. People being mean to other people that is the problem. Slowing down leveling won't help people learn group play any faster, actually it will make slower. And in the process if people were to berate others, they would be doing it there too. People behaving badly needs to be discouraged. The number of experienced player only increases over time and the choice/opportunity to be nice or mean to new player is going to be going to be in the hands of the experienced player 99% of the time, why is it so hard for the experienced player choose to be nice all the time?

Because some people suck, that's why. It's easy to be mean, especially thanks to DF.
To answer a question in a previous post, the reason why no one asks questions because you're either going to get kicked, or get the heat from it.
Don't ask, mess up, they'll know it's your first time and then they'll get pissy.
You're damned if you do, damned if you don't when it comes down to questions.
It's a shame too. People are so mean on this game some times people are scared to get the boot.
I try to help whenever I can. I'm also guilty of not asking things at times, because of said above.
I don't wanna hear it from people.

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