Dungeons and ANGRY PEOPLE !

[Snugglebutt]

I don't believe you, sounds to me your on the defensive because see people saying older players are being jerks so you made up that example. There is no need to be defensive about being older player when some older players are getting rightly called out on their actions, it is some and not all being referred to.

Your example should probably be more like new player dies, this causes wipe and the older players offered their advice filled with insults and name calling and that is why the new player got upset. As I said I have never seen or heard of anyone else other than you claiming it is the new players who all tend to be the ones being jerks/rude so sorry I just do not believe you. Also keep in mind when talking about older players being rude we are not referring to only people who have been around since version 1.0, what each person considers an older player or vet varies per person but generally I consider someone who has reached 50 on at least one class to be such personally.

[NyarukoW]

No. From my experience the rude and vicious ones are the newbies.....

What is obvious from the way you communicate here, is that you do NOT know how to give acceptable advice to anyone. You may think you are polite, but you are NOT.

Your hatred for new players is coming thru loud and clear. You want to treat them with contempt, but unfortunately, the rest of us strong rejects to your mean-spirited ways.

[Elim]

What is obvious from the way you communicate here, is that you do NOT know how to give acceptable advice to anyone. You may think you are polite, but you are NOT.

Your hatred for new players is coming thru loud and clear. You want to treat them with contempt, but unfortunately, the rest of us strong rejects to your mean-spirited ways.

Not sure where you got all of this. Now you're being mean to me by saying all this stuff. lol. So you can say that vets are mean but if you say newbies are mean then you're a bad person?

EDIT: Also I don't give advice unless asked for it. I've said it many times in other threads. When people ask for it they tend to be grateful. I'm talking more about what I've seen happen between other players.

[NyarukoW]

Not sure where you got all of this. Now you're being mean to me by saying all this stuff. lol. So you can say that vets are mean but if you say newbies are mean then you're a bad person?

I am being mean to you.. Funny how sensitive you are on the forums. Do I look like a new player on with a green sprout? What were you saying about new players being mean again?

Actually you are being really mean to the OP. You sure sound like one the ANGRY PEOPLE he is referring to. BTW if you want to believe that infants can be born evil, you are welcomed to that opinion too.

[Snugglebutt]

It is how you went about it Elim, seemed to many of us based on how you expressed yourself that you came in here like a bull in a china shop or simply going straight on the defensive put another way not liking that some older players are being called out on their bad behavior and somehow thinking this might impact you too as an older player and as such was trying to turn it around so everyone else gets blamed except the vets/older players. The example you gave added to this by your pushing the melodramatic tone of it up ten notches and the entire thing seems very unlikely as I have said.

[TouchandFeel]

People are mean and immature because ... its the internet and people feel empowered to be asses by anonymity since there are pretty much no real repercussions for such behavior.

People should practice common decency and respect when dealing with others, period. It doesn't matter if it is in real life or virtually online or whatever.

As for being new to the game or anything really, part of it is on other people to be understanding and helpful, however part of it is on you as well. You need to be proactive in trying to understand and learn about what you are new to.

Tell people in a dungeon if you are new or not comfortable with something, people will be more likely to be patient in helpful whereas waiting for people to find this out due to a wipe or something is much more likely to result in people getting pissed off at you. Also, pay attention to the job and class quests as they are often trying to teach you something about how to play your class/job.

Just as people should put in effort to help and teach new players so that they will hopefully improve, the new player should also put in effort to seek out information and learn in order to better themselves. This is not a one-way street and requires give and take from both sides.

Coming here to the forums and asking questions is a step in the right direction and I hope you find a lot of helpful advice.

P.S. this is generalized advice and not aimed solely at the op as this topic seems to pop up so often.

[Kiara1]

I feel so bad for ppl having issues like this in dungeons.
I never had any ppl calling me anything mean and my main is a healer. I messed up a lot in dungeons.
Still remember wiping my party 4 time at last boss in stone vigil. But they didnt complain. They just gave me some advice and we finqlly beat it.
I was really bad at new things in the beginning.

Now about 6 months later I can learn new fights really fast and im very rarely a burden to my group.

You will learn too and dont mind the meanies. Everyone should get to be new and mess up. Thats how you learn. By doing mistake!

[Maero]

Yeah i always say hello to players on every run i do and try to explain stuff if people are new. Those that do not reply are usually the know it all and get upset over silly stuff.
Pre-Level 50 gear is important but not as much as end game dungeons. Gear also does not = skill, seen far too many ilv 100-110 players that do not know how to play their class (tanks mainly) and then rage because they lost agro. So in all i agree some people just need to chill at times, unless of course a dps attacks before tank can get agro, seen that happen a fair amount of times too.

No. From my experience the rude and vicious ones are the newbies. Sorry to burst your bubbles.

Maybe in your experiences but 99 % of the time, no it's so called "veterans" that whine

[Synestra]

seen far too many ilv 100-110 players that do not know how to play their class (tanks mainly) and then rage because they lost agro.

As an tank this makes me always sad panda, because hands down tanking is the easiest role in this game. Anyway back on topic, if you are new to whole MMO genre i highly suggest checking class forums to get some sort of understanding for your chosen role/job, thats what i always do even before installing whole game so i know how skills, gearing etc works.

[myahele]

This reminds me about maybe a month or two after lauch SE sent notices to chatboxes (similar to maintenance notice) telling us to be friendly and build a better community, etc.

They could probably do that everytime we log in or every once in a while. Not sure at how effective it was, but I suppose being reminded to be friendly towards each other is nice.