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  1. #51
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    Quote Originally Posted by Khyzen View Post
    Mmhmm. They never seem to directly say if Personal Housing will be in wards or not.

    Sigh.

    Only one thing left to do guys...


    つ ◕_◕ ༽つPERSONAL HOUSING INFO OR RIOT ༼ つ ◕_◕ ༽つ

    I mean when we are just a few days away we should get something from someone I hope.
    My FC is very tight and some of us would like to live close to each other but if it's gonna be a race for plots that won't happen. Timing is bad for myself having to travel 12 hours for work the day before. Some information at all would be welcome.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaihri View Post
    I mean when we are just a few days away we should get something from someone I hope.
    My FC is very tight and some of us would like to live close to each other but if it's gonna be a race for plots that won't happen. Timing is bad for myself having to travel 12 hours for work the day before. Some information at all would be welcome.
    Way back when, when this game was still a concept, they mentioned we'd be able to trade plots so we could be neighbors with our friends if we want.

    That is literally the only piece of information that gives me any hope for Personal Housing, and it is well over a year old.....
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  3. #53
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    Quote Originally Posted by Khyzen View Post
    Mmhmm. They never seem to directly say if Personal Housing will be in wards or not.

    Sigh.

    Only one thing left to do guys...


    つ ◕_◕ ༽つPERSONAL HOUSING INFO OR RIOT ༼ つ ◕_◕ ༽つ

    ++++++++ /10char
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  4. #54
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    Also, can we play the new mini games in our personal house? Or is this seriously gonna be restricted to an inn room that no one ever uses
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  5. #55
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pterois View Post
    from todays live letter you can find some clues about personal housing (if translated right lol)

    *snip*


    I have to believe it won't be like the FC wards for two reasons, one sort of obvious, and the other as contained in this quote:



    Quote Originally Posted by Official SE translation of last live letter
    Q: I have enough gil to purchase land, but there aren't enough open spaces. When are you planning to add more land? Also, is there any information you can reveal about personal housing?
    A: Kasuga: At the moment all I can say is that we are looking into it, but we're at the point where Yoshida will make a judgment call.

    Yoshida: First, we'll be adding land in patch 2.38, and it will then be possible to purchase personal housing, but the issue of how many plots to add will be under discussion until right up to the last minute. Just the other night we had a meeting which included Kasuga about even more additional plots and what kind of plans they have in order to accommodate them. At the same time we've been looking into whether we can increase the number of plots by juggling our graphic resources. Currently, we're working out all the parameters and then we'll be deciding how to do it and at what time based on the results.

    Kasuga: The quick answer as to why it's not so simple to add more land is because of the infrastructure. Compared to our initial plans for infrastructure, the current demand for land has far exceeded what was predicted, and in the event that we decide to go forward with the current infrastructure, we would have no choice but to address the issue with software. And if we were to rely on a software solution, it would be difficult to secure the time required to test everything out, further delaying the release of new land.

    Yoshida: Of the ideas we have at the moment, we are trying to make the final decision as to which solution is the quickest and would allow for the most land, as well considering the amount of time and resources it will take. Of course there have been those who have suggested spending millions to enhance the servers, but this would be the last resort for our engineers. We're currently looking into exactly how much we can increase the amount of land with our current resources and we'll be doing this right up to the last minute. If it appears that all other avenues have been exhausted, then I'll make the call to beef up the servers. At the very least, we will be increasing land in patch 2.38 and you'll also be able to start purchasing private housing.
    This Q/A is mainly about Free Company housing with personal housing as an aside. I believe it's saying that they will be adding more FC Housing (wards) (how many is yet to be determined) and that it's not easy to do this, and the aside being: by the way at least you can buy your own personal house.

    The (would seem obvious) reason that they cannot make personal housing in the same type of instanced wards is because they don't even have enough FC wards, how can they drop Personal Housing the same way and then it not be available for everyone. The game would explode.

    While I WANTED it to be in ward/neighborhoods, I realize this really won't work at all. There are too many players. How many FC houses are there? Like 200 per server? They would need like 5000+ personal houses available? So... this is my hope...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Khyzen View Post
    Mmhmm. They never seem to directly say if Personal Housing will be in wards or not.
    Well, they do say that "the issue of how many plots to add will be under discussion" which indicates that it's not individually instanced, as that wouldn't have a set number of plots. The fact that they're choosing a number of plots suggests a ward system like what FC housing uses. They just don't mention whether it would be the same wards or separate ones.

    Personally, I'd expect separate wards, if only because we'd have a disproportionate number of mansion sized plots if they mixed private houses among FC houses while just adding some more wards to accommodate it. (Then again, maybe that's giving them credit for more common sense than they've shown so far. If they had any sense, they'd have abandoned the ward system. They've already seen the problems it causes if they're unwilling to extend the wards when needed as they promised to.)

    I'll wait to see it when it actually arrives, but these little snippets that are all the info they're letting out so far make it look like this feature may well be badly done enough to kill the game.

    EDIT:
    Hmmm.... Now, seeing the fuller quote, it's not as clear which housing that first reference to "how many plots to add" refers to. Now I'm just confused. We're back to that they've still told us absolutely nothing, and even with personal housing about to be added to the game, it hasn't even been referenced except as an aside to other conversations.
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    Last edited by Niwashi; 09-12-2014 at 05:58 AM.

  7. #57
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    You guys - how is it handled in other games? I've only played XI. Surely someone has an idea how this would work - I'm pretty clueless. Yoshi does seem to borrow from other games so knowing this might help.

    I've heard in WildStar that your house is it's own instance and that you teleport to it. You can add people to your "neighbor" list so you can visit them. But it's not wards like we know as our Free Co. housing.

    I do think when they say "the issue of how many plots to add" is referring to FC housing/wards.

    I really wish that a Rep would pop in and just say it will be accessible to everyone (gil dependent) and that it cannot "sell out". We don't have to have every detail, but to know that would save everyone a lot of stress and sleep on patch-eve, especially those who cannot be around at log in time to do anything about it anyway.
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  8. #58
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    Quote Originally Posted by JillyBean View Post
    You guys - how is it handled in other games?
    Well, in FFXI it was basically like our inn rooms, except you could decorate it and eventually invite people inside.

    Aion's housing system was like the wards in that there were only so many spots available, except on top of being expensive you also had to pay rent to hold onto your plot.

    SWTOR just introduced their housing system (finally). Basically it's your own personal instance that you can buy and then spend additional money to unlock different parts of the stronghold. The places are pretty big, which is nice, and you can own multiple houses on different plants. Sadly the layout system as far as placing furniture is a bit restrictive.

    Archeage's housing system is kind of a cluster f. Basically there's designated open areas of land that you can place a house in, and people like to place their houses in just the right spot so that there's just enough room in between their house and the next persons that no one can build in between. So technically it's like the wards in that there's only so much space on the map. Also the small houses are just...really small and unappealing.

    GW2's housing system... *snerk* No, I'm sorry, I can't. I just can't. Laughing too hard. From disappointment.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JillyBean View Post
    I really wish that a Rep would pop in and just say it will be accessible to everyone (gil dependent) and that it cannot "sell out". We don't have to have every detail, but to know that would save everyone a lot of stress and sleep on patch-eve, especially those who cannot be around at log in time to do anything about it anyway.
    Agreed about mostly needing to hear that (though I think we should get some of those other details too). It's past time to get some real answers here.

    1) ##MOST IMPORTANT## Does personal housing use wards with a limited number of plots, or does it use unlimited individual instances, or something else?
    2) What requirements have to be met in order to buy a personal home?
    3) Do we buy a house, or buy a plot of land and build a house?
    4) Are there different size options on personal houses, and what are they?
    5) What are the prices?
    6) Can we have a chocobo stable there?

    We should have been given clear answers to all of those by now. But so far as I've seen, the only thing they've actually answered is that we can have a garden.
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    Last edited by Niwashi; 09-12-2014 at 06:40 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Khyzen View Post
    Well, in FFXI it was basically like our inn rooms, except you could decorate it and eventually invite people inside.

    Aion's housing system was like the wards in that there were only so many spots available, except on top of being expensive you also had to pay rent to hold onto your plot.

    SWTOR just introduced their housing system (finally). Basically it's your own personal instance that you can buy and then spend additional money to unlock different parts of the stronghold. The places are pretty big, which is nice, and you can own multiple houses on different plants. Sadly the layout system as far as placing furniture is a bit restrictive.

    Archeage's housing system is kind of a cluster f. Basically there's designated open areas of land that you can place a house in, and people like to place their houses in just the right spot so that there's just enough room in between their house and the next persons that no one can build in between. So technically it's like the wards in that there's only so much space on the map. Also the small houses are just...really small and unappealing.

    GW2's housing system... *snerk* No, I'm sorry, I can't. I just can't. Laughing too hard. From disappointment.
    Thanks for your reply! So, there is a myriad of ways to go about this. Hopefully Yoshi doesn't break our hearts. I'm going to be so upset if there are plots and they are just GONE...
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