Personal Housing Questions

[NyneAlexander]

Also, can we play the new mini games in our personal house? Or is this seriously gonna be restricted to an inn room that no one ever uses

[JillyBean]

You guys - how is it handled in other games? I've only played XI. Surely someone has an idea how this would work - I'm pretty clueless. Yoshi does seem to borrow from other games so knowing this might help.

I've heard in WildStar that your house is it's own instance and that you teleport to it. You can add people to your "neighbor" list so you can visit them. But it's not wards like we know as our Free Co. housing.

I do think when they say "the issue of how many plots to add" is referring to FC housing/wards.

I really wish that a Rep would pop in and just say it will be accessible to everyone (gil dependent) and that it cannot "sell out". We don't have to have every detail, but to know that would save everyone a lot of stress and sleep on patch-eve, especially those who cannot be around at log in time to do anything about it anyway.

[Khyzen]

You guys - how is it handled in other games?

Well, in FFXI it was basically like our inn rooms, except you could decorate it and eventually invite people inside.

Aion's housing system was like the wards in that there were only so many spots available, except on top of being expensive you also had to pay rent to hold onto your plot.

SWTOR just introduced their housing system (finally). Basically it's your own personal instance that you can buy and then spend additional money to unlock different parts of the stronghold. The places are pretty big, which is nice, and you can own multiple houses on different plants. Sadly the layout system as far as placing furniture is a bit restrictive.

Archeage's housing system is kind of a cluster f. Basically there's designated open areas of land that you can place a house in, and people like to place their houses in just the right spot so that there's just enough room in between their house and the next persons that no one can build in between. So technically it's like the wards in that there's only so much space on the map. Also the small houses are just...really small and unappealing.

GW2's housing system... *snerk* No, I'm sorry, I can't. I just can't. Laughing too hard. From disappointment.

[JillyBean]

Well, in FFXI it was basically like our inn rooms, except you could decorate it and eventually invite people inside.

Aion's housing system was like the wards in that there were only so many spots available, except on top of being expensive you also had to pay rent to hold onto your plot.

SWTOR just introduced their housing system (finally). Basically it's your own personal instance that you can buy and then spend additional money to unlock different parts of the stronghold. The places are pretty big, which is nice, and you can own multiple houses on different plants. Sadly the layout system as far as placing furniture is a bit restrictive.

Archeage's housing system is kind of a cluster f. Basically there's designated open areas of land that you can place a house in, and people like to place their houses in just the right spot so that there's just enough room in between their house and the next persons that no one can build in between. So technically it's like the wards in that there's only so much space on the map. Also the small houses are just...really small and unappealing.

GW2's housing system... *snerk* No, I'm sorry, I can't. I just can't. Laughing too hard. From disappointment.

Thanks for your reply! So, there is a myriad of ways to go about this. Hopefully Yoshi doesn't break our hearts. I'm going to be so upset if there are plots and they are just GONE...

[Niwashi]

I really wish that a Rep would pop in and just say it will be accessible to everyone (gil dependent) and that it cannot "sell out". We don't have to have every detail, but to know that would save everyone a lot of stress and sleep on patch-eve, especially those who cannot be around at log in time to do anything about it anyway.

Agreed about mostly needing to hear that (though I think we should get some of those other details too). It's past time to get some real answers here.

1) ##MOST IMPORTANT## Does personal housing use wards with a limited number of plots, or does it use unlimited individual instances, or something else?
2) What requirements have to be met in order to buy a personal home?
3) Do we buy a house, or buy a plot of land and build a house?
4) Are there different size options on personal houses, and what are they?
5) What are the prices?
6) Can we have a chocobo stable there?

We should have been given clear answers to all of those by now. But so far as I've seen, the only thing they've actually answered is that we can have a garden.

[MomomiMomi]

But so far as I've seen, the only thing they've actually answered is that we can have a garden.

And I believe even that's not certain if it's coming in 2.38. Last I saw, they were working on it, but they weren't sure if they could have it ready to come along with personal houses.

Which also makes me believe that these are going to be totally different to the existing wards if they have to work on the garden system so much for it.

[Niwashi]

You guys - how is it handled in other games?

LOTRO uses wards like FFXIV's (though LOTRO uses the term "neighborhood" rather than "ward"), and it mixes personal houses and kinship houses into the same neighborhoods. (LOTRO kinship = FFXIV FC.) Turbine was a lot more generous than SE when it came to setting the number of neighborhoods, however. Its system for adding additional neighborhoods whenever a given size of house was sold out was automated and really worked for at least the first few years it was out. So you could always buy the size house you wanted in the zone you wanted (though whether the exact house location you wanted was available wasn't guaranteed).

Eventually (after about 3 or 4 years IIRC), the most populated server hit a maximum number of neighborhoods that the system could spawn, and new neighborhoods couldn't be added until Turbine increased that upper limit (which was immediately filled with the people who had been waiting for that limit increase, so it was back to full and needed to be increased again). But I don't think any other server, besides that most populated one, ever hit that problem. (I haven't really kept up with it all that well the last year or so since ARR came out, though, so I'm not up on its recent status.)

[Narthice]

The only other game I've played with housing system was Mabinogi.

There they first had Housing which was not instanced. There were different housing areas (I think 4 total if i remember correctly) and you didn't buy a house really, it was more like a rent. First you would go to an available house and bid on it. If you won the bid you get to keep the house for 4 weeks and you would pay taxes once a week during this period. After the time expired you would take your belongings and try bidding on another house. You were able to decorate it to an extent, but frankly since you aren't keeping the house there wasn’t much incentive to decorating it. You may ask “What is the point of the house then?” Well they were basically retainers in a way. You would put items for sale as well as storing gold. I’ll leave a wiki link to it if anyone cares to read more on it http://wiki.mabinogiworld.com/view/Housing


Then there were Homesteads, which were instanced. They were free for anyone at early levels. You would receive a ticket to create one, and you could pick from three themes/environments (regular grassland, Desert, or Snowfield) It starts as a very tiny plot but you can level it up by doing activities such as farming and building. It would expand at certain levels as well as unlocking more selections of materials/fauna to add to it. One of the sad part of it is that even though you could add a house in the plot of land you couldn't go inside, and it didn't serve any purpose other than visual. Here is a link with more information on this one http://wiki.mabinogiworld.com/view/Homestead

Personally im hoping for Instanced in this game, I understand some people want to live close to each other and it would be nice to have both options, but I'm afraid that might not be possible (limitations and what not). It’s sad that we know nothing about this yet, and a lot of the statements made about it are confusing in which we don't know if they are referring to FC housing or personal rooms at times. Some clarification is really needed. Perhaps it really has been delayed yet again.

[Nalien]

Nothing today? Guess it's Monday or nothing; the most clear and relevant information about Personal Housing in a recent time frame will have been banter about the cost and "somehow we can't implement Gardening for you easily".

[JillyBean]

Yeah there really should be a rep post in here clarifying something. I am very on edge.