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[JustPlainLucas]

Kindly keep your "shop" out of the PF. The Party Finder is supposed, as the name implies, to help people find parties. It is not an advertising board.

Tell you what. You find me where in the ToS that says I can't advertise my services in the Party Finder, and I won't.

[Xystic]

Tell you what. You find me where in the ToS that says I can't advertise my services in the Party Finder, and I won't.

Its fine with 1 or 2 people but if you get 5,000 people to do it, whether its in the ToS or not, PF will be the new MB.

Most the times, if your advertising on the PF, your also on my Black list.

Sorry~ Don't want to promote turning PF to a MB.

[JustPlainLucas]

Its fine with 1 or 2 people but if you get 5,000 people to do it, whether its in the ToS or not, PF will be the new MB.

Most the times, if your advertising on the PF, your also on my Black list.

Sorry~ Don't want to promote turning PF to a MB.

And guess what? It's not going to happen, because it would have happened already. You think I was the only one to think about doing this? People will open up a shop, sell stuff, take the PF down and move on. It's not like these shops are up 24/7, if they are even on there 24 minutes and 7 seconds.

[DishSoap]

Its fine with 1 or 2 people but if you get 5,000 people to do it, whether its in the ToS or not, PF will be the new MB. Most the times, if your advertising on the PF, your also on my Black list.

"It's wrong because I say so! Don't do things I don't like!"

[KitanaiKoneko]

Its fine with 1 or 2 people but if you get 5,000 people to do it, whether its in the ToS or not, PF will be the new MB.

Most the times, if your advertising on the PF, your also on my Black list.

Sorry~ Don't want to promote turning PF to a MB.

There is a search function within the party finder. Use it.

[Xystic]

There is a search function within the party finder. Use it.

The MB has one too. Use it.

[Darki]

Tell you what. You find me where in the ToS that says I can't advertise my services in the Party Finder, and I won't.

It says it in two places:

2.3 Commercial Use. You may not exploit the Game for any commercial purpose (for example, advertising any product or service in-game, or use by the operator of a cyber café) without Square Enix's prior written consent.

2.8 Commercial Spamming/Spimming. You may not use (or abuse) the in-game chat and message services to distribute advertisements.

Source: Final Fantasy XIV Terms Of Service


com·mer·cial
kəˈmərSHəl/Submit
adjective
1. concerned with or engaged in commerce.
"a commercial agreement"
synonyms: trade, trading, business, private enterprise, mercantile, sales
"a vessel built for commercial purposes"

2. making or intended to make a profit.
"commercial products"
synonyms: profit-oriented, money-oriented, materialistic, mercenary
"a commercial society"

[Titor]

It says it in two places:

2.3 Commercial Use. You may not exploit the Game for any commercial purpose (for example, advertising any product or service in-game, or use by the operator of a cyber café) without Square Enix's prior written consent.

2.8 Commercial Spamming/Spimming. You may not use (or abuse) the in-game chat and message services to distribute advertisements.

Source: Final Fantasy XIV Terms Of Service


com·mer·cial
kəˈmərSHəl/Submit
adjective
1. concerned with or engaged in commerce.
"a commercial agreement"
synonyms: trade, trading, business, private enterprise, mercantile, sales
"a vessel built for commercial purposes"

2. making or intended to make a profit.
"commercial products"
synonyms: profit-oriented, money-oriented, materialistic, mercenary
"a commercial society"

They mean real world commercial here.

[Darki]

They mean real world commercial here.

Legally it has to specifically state that then. This is the reason why I included the definition of "commercial use." If it said "real world commercial use," then that would be different.

Let me also make it clear that I am not implying anything is "right" or "wrong" I am simply stating what is. By using the party finder or even the many forms of chat to advertise a service (even if it only exists inside the game) you are opening yourself up to trolls with knowledge of the ToS.

[Baneus]

Legally it has to specifically state that then. This is the reason why I included the definition of "commercial use." If it said "real world commercial use," then that would be different.

Let me also make it clear that I am not implying anything is "right" or "wrong" I am simply stating what is. By using the party finder or even the many forms of chat to advertise a service (even if it only exists inside the game) you are opening yourself up to trolls with knowledge of the ToS.

This trolling would in-fact fall under ToS:
3.9 Non-Commercial Spamming/Spimming. You may not use (or abuse) the in-game chat and message services to harass other players.

I mean if you're going to bring up the ToS, remember that the entire thing applies at all times, not just the bits you want