Time limit to re-enter dungeons

[Cursive]

You are telling me you have a linkshell that consists of people that plays 20 hours a day and will only spam dungeons everyday? more power to you then.

Majority of players probably doesn't play that way.

don't you think the hardcore ls that can run the dungeon 20 times a day would think its awesome they can do it that many times?

the issue isn't who is and who isn't "hardcore" is is how fast people will exhaust this content before they are left waiting again for more.

[Richard]

don't you think the hardcore ls that can run the dungeon 20 times a day would think its awesome they can do it that many times?

the issue isn't who is and who isn't "hardcore" is is how fast people will exhaust this content before they are left waiting again for more.

EXACTLY THANK YOU

[Amas]

It's cute that the handful of hardcore endgamers still playing think they're top of mind for Yoshida right now.

FFXIV needs to be in a state where they can generate revenue from it, if it is to have any future at all.

Most of an MMO's revenue comes from casual gamers.

Ergo, initial content may have some bonuses tucked in for the haijin (hidden bosses, etc.) but pretty much has to be tailored towards approachability so that the majority (the casuals) feel like they can actually set "worthwhile" (insofar as that term applies to an MMO) goals and attain them.

Given how little we really know about how the dungeons will be implemented, it's far too soon to say how a short lockout will impact for hardcore endgamers.

Once there is more variety of content, I would personally be in favor of longer lockouts and more rewards per run (see also: don't punish people with Salvage-esque drop rates), but given that these first two dungeons are basically a public beta for FFXIV instanced raids, I am not that worried yet.

[Cursive]

I think the fact that the trash mobs are 10~15 levels above the party levels and the boss will likely be a Lv.60+ NM it will constitute as endgame - even when just speculating. Also:

Dungeons have officially replaced leves as the "spam this 600 times in a week" and then /slit your wrists at the thought of entering them.

dude, what are you talking about...i love leves! we put all of ours on 5 stars to make it hard and challenging lol...this game is hard! lol

[Zkieve]

the issue isn't who is and who isn't "hardcore" is is how fast people will exhaust this content before they are left waiting again for more.

i give it 1 month.

[Richard]

i give it 1 month.

I give it 1~2 weeks.

[Jennestia]

It's cute that the handful of hardcore endgamers still playing think they're top of mind for Yoshida right now.

FFXIV needs to be in a state where they can generate revenue from it, if it is to have any future at all.

Most of an MMO's revenue comes from casual gamers.

Thus my example why easy MMOs such as WoW are on top. It's painfully clear what the team wants done with this game, however as the other thread title stated awhile back that I didn't initially agree with given the undertone of "I'm better than you" - Casual gamers think they're the most entitled to everything these days, and want the game designed for them.

While they are making content, that's a given:

Once there is more variety of content

There will be a variety of content designed for casual play, especially since you opened your post with:

It's cute that the handful of hardcore endgamers still playing think they're top of mind for Yoshida right now.

So you pretty much realize this game is basically going to be nothing but a casual playground, which is fine for those who like it, but will drive away another portion of their playerbase when your goal is to try to get as many players as possible and both hardcore and casual gamers exist in the MMO world.

[Marcellus_Cassius]

People that are complaining, don't forget theres different routes that lead to different gear, so you might have to do 3 runs to have 1 shot at gear for all the classes.

[Zkieve]

when your goal is to try to get as many players as possible and both hardcore and casual gamers exist in the MMO world.

Im yet to see a game who caters to both casual and hardcore equivalently and equally.
Game will and always have lean to 1 side.We all know were this one is heading for a long time.

[Richard]

Im yet to see a game who caters to both casual and hardcore equivalently and equally.
Game will and always have leaned to 1 side.We all know were this one is heading for a long time.

GW2 will be the light my son. CANT WAIT.