Swimming and underwater content?

[Dreadnought]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kcolj...eature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=21FY6smddkY

Games with good underwater combat, from a turn-based game and an action game. Doesn't really look ridiculous at all, except from fire weapons working underwater in MH Tri but that's beside the point. It can work well if they did it properly.

but its not beside the point, its the point exactly.
neither of those battles look any good at all to me. they look just as i described battling under water and only better than every MMO because its a console game with attention payed specifically to those battles. even if they did pay that much attention to under water battles, theyd still be rediculously unrealistic just as youve shown.
i get casting magic and using crystals to craft isnt very realistic, but doing all of that under water is even more unrealistic. its always seemed like a step just too far.

water creates massive resistance against your body. it causes you to fatigue greatly and it extinguishes heat. its just so far out there to me. even if you could cast fire magic and swing a thousand pound blade in water, shouldnt there SOME type of explanation for doing any of that?

jumping gets me on top of and around things. swimming doesnt do anything at all for me.

oh one more thing i never understood about under water battles - the battle cries or "HYA!!"s and things like that. where are the bubbles? arent you losing breath? how can you even make that noise when your fighting under water?
UGH IT BOGGLES MY BRAIN...