Fix Dragoon jumps

[KrauserX]

Jumps just doing and X axis movement instead a parable movement, they are not doing the same that the parable movement animation, that mean a tiny rock can you stop on the air, also you eat all AoE even you are not walking on them.

Also, for example, in frontline if you jump on a player and he hides behind a wall, if the jump encounters a wall not do that abrupt animation to the floor but a small knockback of 30% of the path traveled with a good animation for example! something better than now pls

Ilustration: http://oi57.tinypic.com/2j4zloz.jpg

[Empressia]

Z axis implementation ftw although z axis movement is what we called position hacking in other games and lets not forget how the forum community loves to accuse something out of the ordinary as hacks or cheats or whatever BS

[Penguinmayhem]

I don't get why Jump can't just ignore terrain.

I mean, look at the animation. Look at the freaking animation. Now explain why it can't ignore terrain.

[Aegis]

I don't get why Jump can't just ignore terrain.

I mean, look at the animation. Look at the freaking animation. Now explain why it can't ignore terrain.

Because it would allow players to access areas they shouldn't be able to access and glitch their way through the scenery. Elusive jump would be abused horribly.

[Dhex]

Because it would allow players to access areas they shouldn't be able to access and glitch their way through the scenery. Elusive jump would be abused horribly.

If you jump (standard character jump) + Elusive Jump you move through the X axis at the apex of the standard jump's Z axis.

It's a nifty trick...

[Barboron]

I don't get why Jump can't just ignore terrain.

I mean, look at the animation. Look at the freaking animation. Now explain why it can't ignore terrain.

I reckon if they changed it now, they would end up having some DRGs getting into places they should. Meaning they would have to implement invisible wall after invisible wall into places they haven't yet covered.

Also, it would be much easier to program the way it is now and implement.

Simples. Although I would prefer it myself but it could lead to other issues like performing a dive while in a hallway/tunnel. You end up going through the roof and this could cause a series of issues.

[KrauserX]

I reckon if they changed it now, they would end up having some DRGs getting into places they should. Meaning they would have to implement invisible wall after invisible wall into places they haven't yet covered.

Also, it would be much easier to program the way it is now and implement.

Simples. Although I would prefer it myself but it could lead to other issues like performing a dive while in a hallway/tunnel. You end up going through the roof and this could cause a series of issues.

If encounter some anomaly upon calculating the jump path (BEFORE JUMP) skill says a red message you can't do it. Just put some rules for jumps but is annoying to see a tiny rock blocks the jump

[Muzetta]

I managed to jump over something a few times with Elusive Jump. Though I had to use it mid-air to get it working, so there's that...

[Xandim]

Yoshi decided to go for that route because he tought that the players would use a party of only DRG for some fights with unavoidable damage (mainly hit kill / wipe mechanics). And what you are asking for is essencially a few frames of pure invencibility.

[ChaozK]

I reckon if they changed it now, they would end up having some DRGs getting into places they should. Meaning they would have to implement invisible wall after invisible wall into places they haven't yet covered.

Also, it would be much easier to program the way it is now and implement.

Simples. Although I would prefer it myself but it could lead to other issues like performing a dive while in a hallway/tunnel. You end up going through the roof and this could cause a series of issues.

Technically this wouldn't be an issue since you need a target for all jumps and you cant target through walls or get to places with no enemies on them. Exception would be elusive jump but this one could just be excluded from the changes and considering the horizontal movement of the animation, it wouldnt make sense anyhow for elusive jump to ignore terrain.

Yoshi decided to go for that route because he tought that the players would use a party of only DRG for some fights with unavoidable damage (mainly hit kill / wipe mechanics). And what you are asking for is essencially a few frames of pure invencibility.

I get that reasoning but just as they made certain mechanics able to ignore hallowed ground of PLDs, they could just do the same for jumps. Also the majority of wipe mechanics dont have targets available the moment they hit, so jumps couldnt be used.

Really more playing devils advocate here more than anything, i think jumps are fine.