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    KrauserX's Avatar
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    Fix Dragoon jumps

    Jumps just doing and X axis movement instead a parable movement, they are not doing the same that the parable movement animation, that mean a tiny rock can you stop on the air, also you eat all AoE even you are not walking on them.

    Also, for example, in frontline if you jump on a player and he hides behind a wall, if the jump encounters a wall not do that abrupt animation to the floor but a small knockback of 30% of the path traveled with a good animation for example! something better than now pls

    Ilustration: http://oi57.tinypic.com/2j4zloz.jpg
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    Last edited by KrauserX; 08-20-2014 at 03:26 AM.

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    Z axis implementation ftw although z axis movement is what we called position hacking in other games and lets not forget how the forum community loves to accuse something out of the ordinary as hacks or cheats or whatever BS
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    Leih Desahdi
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    I don't get why Jump can't just ignore terrain.

    I mean, look at the animation. Look at the freaking animation. Now explain why it can't ignore terrain.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Penguinmayhem View Post
    I don't get why Jump can't just ignore terrain.

    I mean, look at the animation. Look at the freaking animation. Now explain why it can't ignore terrain.
    Because it would allow players to access areas they shouldn't be able to access and glitch their way through the scenery. Elusive jump would be abused horribly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Penguinmayhem View Post
    I don't get why Jump can't just ignore terrain.

    I mean, look at the animation. Look at the freaking animation. Now explain why it can't ignore terrain.
    I reckon if they changed it now, they would end up having some DRGs getting into places they should. Meaning they would have to implement invisible wall after invisible wall into places they haven't yet covered.

    Also, it would be much easier to program the way it is now and implement.

    Simples. Although I would prefer it myself but it could lead to other issues like performing a dive while in a hallway/tunnel. You end up going through the roof and this could cause a series of issues.
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    I managed to jump over something a few times with Elusive Jump. Though I had to use it mid-air to get it working, so there's that...
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    Iskandar Emmerich
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    just a small edit for clarification purposes =P

    Yoshi decided to go for that route because he tought that the players would use a party of only DRG for some fights with unavoidable damage (mainly hit kill / wipe mechanics). And what you are asking for is essencially a few frames of pure invencibility.
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    In old Final Fantasy games Dragoons traded invincibility for a turn though? I'm sure there can be some drawback to jumping that doesn't involve it becoming a get out of jail free card with no drawbacks?

    Also, forgive the newbish question but couldn't it be made so that there's a Jump animation but the character is essentially separate from it? IE the animation is of you moving upwards, however the actual action is a second of invulnerability in which you simply do damage and 'reappear' where you started?

    Just a thought as I was bored and reading.

    I base the idea off another game I played ages ago in which the animation for a move called Rush employed the same tactic. It obviously has certain drawbacks like lag desync and other things my tired mind can't recall at the moment though.
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    Last edited by LoraRolla; 08-19-2014 at 09:13 PM. Reason: More infoz

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    Quote Originally Posted by Barboron View Post
    I reckon if they changed it now, they would end up having some DRGs getting into places they should. Meaning they would have to implement invisible wall after invisible wall into places they haven't yet covered.

    Also, it would be much easier to program the way it is now and implement.

    Simples. Although I would prefer it myself but it could lead to other issues like performing a dive while in a hallway/tunnel. You end up going through the roof and this could cause a series of issues.
    If encounter some anomaly upon calculating the jump path (BEFORE JUMP) skill says a red message you can't do it. Just put some rules for jumps but is annoying to see a tiny rock blocks the jump
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    Last edited by KrauserX; 08-19-2014 at 09:17 PM.

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    Nugget Highwind
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    Quote Originally Posted by KrauserX View Post
    also you eat all AoE even you are not walking on them.
    l2jump

    /10char
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