SE's most difinitive statement yet on parsers

[saeedaisspecial]

This thread is actually sickening.
Maybe you people might be better off with a time machine that would send you to the dark ages.

[AzakaTonnerre]

"2.1 Cheating and Botting... mods or any other unauthorized software or hardware designed to modify the Game and gameplay...

Parsers are not cheats, bots, automation software, hacks or mods and they don't modify the game or gameplay. They work outside of the game to sort data relating to damage and present it in an easy to read format.

And yet there they are listed in the ToA section referred as "Cheating or Botting" (2.1) nullifying your point of view in SE's mind. While I personally don't care if people use them or not, using a quote that invalidates your point before you even make it (at least in the eyes of the people running the game) kind of seems odd doesn't it?

[Appleh4x]

And yet there they are listed in the ToA section referred as "Cheating or Botting" (2.1) nullifying your point of view in SE's mind. While I personally don't care if people use them or not, using a quote that invalidates your point before you even make it (at least in the eyes of the people running the game) kind of seems odd doesn't it?

Actually they are just listed as third party software, they were previously just in a grey area. I also didn't bring that line up, the poster above me had and I just quoted him without using the quote function so I wouldnt have to go back and edit the post to fit the char limit

[Reynhart]

Yeah, and you realize that a lot of people (like yourself) don't do endgame raiding that has DPS checks too, right? If the game didn't have strict DPS checks people wouldn't use a parser, but it does, you just don't know about them.

You mean like everyone claimed that Turn 4 was a strict DPS check and required a parser ?
Or that Turn 5 was a strict DPS check and required a parser ?
Or maybe that Titan HM was a strict DPS check and required a parser ?

Sorry for not being elite enough for you, but when you'll be banned promoting parser that much, I'll still be able to do endgame raiding.

[saeedaisspecial]

You mean like everyone claimed that Turn 4 was a strict DPS check and required a parser ?
Or that Turn 5 was a strict DPS check and required a parser ?
Or maybe that Titan HM was a strict DPS check and required a parser ?

Sorry for not being elite enough for you, but when you'll be banned promoting parser that much, I'll still be able to do endgame raiding.

Back when they were relevant and on the bleeding edge of content yes, they were very strict DPS checks that were solved by analysing what changes needed to be made.
Please, don't act as if now that they're easy they always have been. Posts like this prove you people are so far from knowing what you're talking about you shouldn't be given an opinion.

Also, you don't end game raid. Running Soldiery dungeons is not end game raiding.

[SongJoohee]

You mean like everyone claimed that Turn 4 was a strict DPS check and required a parser ?
Or that Turn 5 was a strict DPS check and required a parser ?
Or maybe that Titan HM was a strict DPS check and required a parser ?

As content gets older it gets easier thanks to nerfs/echo/higher gear. The same will happen (and has already somewhat) with current content and future content. Turn 8 was at 2.3s launch a strict DPS check, and for those are entering the Turn for the first time, probably still is depending how much gear they have gotten from ST and Hunts, but for those groups who are now very experienced in the turn and have around full 110 should be killing T8 out a good few minutes before his enrage hits.

In other news.

Parsers are handy tools and if used, should be used as such, if they are being used for harassing other players, then the player should be reported for harassment, not for using a parser.

[Reynhart]

Back when they were relevant and on the bleeding edge of content yes, they were very strict DPS checks that were solved by analysing what changes needed to be made.
Please, don't act as if now that they're easy they always have been. Posts like this prove you people are so far from knowing what you're talking about you shouldn't be given an opinion.

Also, you don't end game raid. Running Soldiery dungeons is not end game raiding.

Because you clearly know when I've done all this...

After all, I don't care...cheat all you want, justify it however you want, continue to look down on people that aren't elitist enough for you.
I'm doing all I can to not play with people like you, thus I can still enjoy the game how I want.

By the way, do you realize, that you promote something that was clearly forbidden by Square-Enix and then looking down on people that chose to play the game legit by NOT doing this ? With everything you said, either you directly use a parser and don't care about the risk of being banned (Since your character and server are clearly named on the forum), or you play legit and then, you should follow your own advice to not give an opinion about something you don't actually do.

[StrejdaTom]

If they added some ingame parser, there wont be need for these statements anymore. -_-
Anyways I dont use it.. I just ask people if my damage is ok.

[saeedaisspecial]

Because you clearly know when I've done all this...

After all, I don't care...cheat all you want, justify it however you want, continue to look down on people that aren't elitist enough for you.
I'm doing all I can to not play with people like you, thus I can still enjoy the game how I want.

By the way, do you realize, that you promote something that was clearly forbidden by Square-Enix and then looking down on people that chose to play the game legit by NOT doing this ? With everything you said, either you directly use a parser and don't care about the risk of being banned (Since your character and server are clearly named on the forum), or you play legit and then, you should follow your own advice to not give an opinion about something you don't actually do.

I don't look down upon you for not parsing. I look down upon you for ignoring all the benefits and disregarding them so easily. You can hate them, dislike them all you want, but you should still accept that their advantages are huge to those that choose to use them properly.

Also, you should stop accusing everyone who argues against you of parsing. That's like saying everyone who votes Republican hates gays.

[Tashigi]

As content gets older it gets easier thanks to nerfs/echo/higher gear. The same will happen (and has already somewhat) with current content and future content. Turn 8 was at 2.3s launch a strict DPS check, and for those are entering the Turn for the first time, probably still is depending how much gear they have gotten from ST and Hunts, but for those groups who are now very experienced in the turn and have around full 110 should be killing T8 out a good few minutes before his enrage hits.

In other news.

Parsers are handy tools and if used, should be used as such, if they are being used for harassing other players, then the player should be reported for harassment, not for using a parser.

Sadly, this is too much for some people to understand.