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    Player
    Crysten's Avatar
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    Crysten Kimura
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    Ragnarok
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    The irony of this entire conversation is that a lot of the time you don't even need a parser to tell who is the dead weight DPS in a party and thus, those people are going to be singled out regardless of whether a parse fully confirms it or not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AxlStream View Post
    You're good at the game? You're an elitist.
    You're using a parser to better yourself? Elitist.
    You're making suggestions on how someone can improve themselves? E l i t i s t.

    You wipe a farm party constantly but you're having fun playing your way. Nah you're fine dude.

    This community astounds me at times.

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    Gormogon Maxwell
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    Quote Originally Posted by Crysten View Post
    The irony of this entire conversation is that a lot of the time you don't even need a parser to tell who is the dead weight DPS in a party and thus, those people are going to be singled out regardless of whether a parse fully confirms it or not.
    Thing is a lot of those dead weights stand more of a chance of being taken more serious and getting the motivation to being good. Especially when a lot of the entry raid bosses or getting to there is enough of an eye opener to get players regardless of role to take their character and group more serious.

    Once you introduce parsers that privileged is neglected on players that can go from uncaring and bad to good because they are judged and it stays because those numbers are gonna be consistently associated with them.

    I've seen these outcomes happen to many times that it's pretty laughable.

    You don't need parsers to learn a rotation you do that as you progress from levels 1-50 and continue on playing. Rotations should come normally to you and if they don't putting a little time and effort into organizing your bars and even seeking advice doesn't come as harsh and demotivating as seeking BiS to dish out some irrational X value from a 3rd party program. Parsers are good at weeding out not at helping.

    Parsers aren't there to set thresholds for the possibility of clearing content. Players don't want the possibility to kill the boss they want the absolutely necessity to clear it get their loot and be done with it.
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    Appleh4x's Avatar
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    Aka Kitsune
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gormogon View Post
    Thing is a lot of those dead weights stand more of a chance of being taken more serious and getting the motivation to being good. Especially when a lot of the entry raid bosses or getting to there is enough of an eye opener to get players regardless of role to take their character and group more serious.
    Dude, you don't even do second coil, and haven't finished the first one. You have no idea why people even use parsers because you aren't even fighting the same fights. You really have no say in this argument since you lack the understanding of why people use them to begin with. You think leveling 1-50 is teaching people how to play their job 100% efficiently and you've never even been in a fight that requires people to be efficient.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Appleh4x View Post
    Dude, you don't even do second coil, and haven't finished the first one.
    First of all I finished T5 a long time ago. Second of all I'm done caring about coil and its drama.

    I want to enjoy the game not be stressed about people whining about petty digital gear.

    Quote Originally Posted by Appleh4x View Post
    You have no idea why people even use parsers.
    FFXIV ARR sure is my first MMO ever. Parsers were invented yesterday. You sure told me.
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    Last edited by Gormogon; 08-10-2014 at 09:10 PM.

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    Arwyn Elven
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    Tonberry
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    Quote Originally Posted by Appleh4x View Post
    Dude, you don't even do second coil, and haven't finished the first one. You have no idea why people even use parsers because you aren't even fighting the same fights.
    There is nothing in this game you couldn't do without a static group, you don't need a parser for that but it does help and identify problems within your team and improve it. But that's not where they're being used now is it? Seriously who uses a parser in a pug group where the very idea of pug is to form a party of all skill levels and go. If people are so butt hurt about not being able to use parsers Bloody keep a lid on it and say nothing at all about them and keep them off the social radar ffs and in your own private circles where they belong and why they were created for.
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    Alessa Ravachi
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    Lol at this thread.

    TThis is one of the reasons I'm taking a break from the game. To much fighting over this. I'm very anti parser for people who use it on other players. They can cause trouble. Though I had a friend who would parse for my group if we asked.

    I almost started a long post.... But I'm stopping myself and going back to lurking XD
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    Ihm Kasukabe
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    I look forward to when native addon support comes out, around the end of the year iirc. Gonna upset a lot of people when parsers are legit and they can't get carried anymore :3
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ihm View Post
    I look forward to when native addon support comes out, around the end of the year iirc. Gonna upset a lot of people when parsers are legit and they can't get carried anymore :3
    Parsers will stop people from selling coil clears? My sides wont stop.
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    Kool Kat
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    This thread is actually sickening.
    Maybe you people might be better off with a time machine that would send you to the dark ages.
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    T'aretha Tyaka
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    Bard Lv 70
    If they added some ingame parser, there wont be need for these statements anymore. -_-
    Anyways I dont use it.. I just ask people if my damage is ok.
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