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    MajinUltima's Avatar
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    Why are Healers allowed to be insanely overpowered?

    Numbers don't lie and healers constantly outstrip damage dealers every game by a margin of ~5 to 1. That's completely insane.

    Players should die when focused, playing well should be rewarded. Having a giant stallfest is neither fun nor good design. I have healers, I don't LIKE playing healers in PVP, I prefer to be more active. I'm not going to heal just because it's overpowered, I don't find that fun.

    Healing needs to be reduced by about half in PVP to create anything even remotely resembling balance.

    Then again, this is how we have 15sec hard crowd control in PVP... because that's another good idea. :/
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    oh cry me a river. i play a sch and i only heal for 600-850ish
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    Last edited by Gor; 08-05-2014 at 08:03 AM.

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    Last edited by Nayto; 08-05-2014 at 08:10 AM. Reason: It's nice to read other threads ya know... before making a statement.

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    Olclessiy Yolmathaer
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    You do realize that healers are almost always the main target and get interrupted CONSTANTLY. To the point that using surcast and equanimity does NOT help. I say you should play the class before you bash.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MajinUltima View Post
    Healing needs to be reduced by about half in PVP to create anything even remotely resembling balance.
    keep in mind what ur requesting not only affects ur enemies but also ur own team. dont think u want your healer healing u for only 400 when u have 3-5 enemy players on u hitting u for 5k+ damage per second. if we can't heal u, you're dead. do you understand that? so please remind me of how "balanced" that is when you're staring down at your lala corpse everytime you go up against an entire enemy team.
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    Last edited by Gor; 08-05-2014 at 08:41 AM.

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    Kienkarajo Tekura
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    I dont feel like a god healing at pvp actually I feel like a piñata
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    Quote Originally Posted by NargaHuntress View Post
    You do realize that healers are almost always the main target and get interrupted CONSTANTLY. To the point that using surcast and equanimity does NOT help. I say you should play the class before you bash.
    This, so much this.

    I go BRD most of the time now. I have more fun when I can just linger in the back shooting stuff, rather then getting frustrated because I can't cast a thing. That and I just don't think I'm a very good pvp healer lol.
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    A party with 3 healers will win against a party with 1 healer every time.
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    Sen Terrechant
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    Quote Originally Posted by MajinUltima View Post
    Numbers don't lie and healers constantly outstrip damage dealers every game by a margin of ~5 to 1. That's completely insane.

    Players should die when focused, playing well should be rewarded. Having a giant stallfest is neither fun nor good design. I have healers, I don't LIKE playing healers in PVP, I prefer to be more active. I'm not going to heal just because it's overpowered, I don't find that fun.

    Healing needs to be reduced by about half in PVP to create anything even remotely resembling balance.

    Then again, this is how we have 15sec hard crowd control in PVP... because that's another good idea. :/
    First of all, no they dont 'outstrip' damage dealers every game by a margin of 5 to 1. Secondly they do die when focused, really really easily. Maybe you just arent focusing?
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    Zell Squallian
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    The problem is, that the as the game is dumbed down, to enable it to be more accessible to players new to mmo's granting healers far more healing ability than they would normally have. When translated to a pvp enviroment this becomes a huge imbalance and highlights the issues with the each class as a whole. Im not sure how it will be possible to balance a healer for competitive pvp combat whilst enabling them to stay functional for the pre designed pve content. Many people say that ff14 simply wasnt designed for pvp, and it was thrown in purely so it wouldnt be missing the feature, so its easy to see why it is such a mess at the moment with little hope of being resolved. It is a shame though as the pvp setting of frontlines could be alot of fun.
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