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  1. #191
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    Dubont, I think you're overreacting a little. People are not going to buy cotton bolls/thread or mats like velveteen en masse for repair materials. They are buying these things to rank up their crafts. Repair materials (the completed materials, NOT the mats that create them) are a small part of the economy.

    Kiote, can you explain how the repair materials are the more prominent?
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  2. #192
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    All the crafters complaining:

    Have you forgotten that you'll soon have a gigantic role in the economy when materia is introduced? Oh no your repair functionality is marginally decreased! But many people will rely on you for the materia socketing. You lose part of one role, you gain another huge one. Quit complaining.
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  3. #193
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kiote View Post
    Your absolutely right, But they are the most prominent items..
    Yanno, I haven't seen a single item that's been able to be repaired by the piles and piles of iron and zinc ore I've pulled up mining. Could be wrong though.
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  4. #194
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arcell View Post
    All the crafters complaining:

    Have you forgotten that you'll soon have a gigantic role in the economy when materia is introduced? Oh no your repair functionality is marginally decreased! But many people will rely on you for the materia socketing. You lose part of one role, you gain another huge one. Quit complaining.
    Agreed. Also, you can get the Dark Matter mats by fighting AND gathering. The only crafting class that doesn't benefit from a gathering class (yet) is Leatherworker, so it's a good idea anyways to use a gathering class if you want more materials. And crafters are needed to do repairs!
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  5. #195
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arcell View Post
    All the crafters complaining:

    Have you forgotten that you'll soon have a gigantic role in the economy when materia is introduced? Oh no your repair functionality is marginally decreased! But many people will rely on you for the materia socketing. You lose part of one role, you gain another huge one. Quit complaining.
    low level crafters, most likely, won't be able to use the materia system to any extent. High level crafters won't be hurt by this, but the lower ones will. 25k a month doesn't sound very promising..
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  6. #196
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    Crafters can now go around repairing anyone's bazaar items instead of worrying if they have the right mat, which for some classes can get quite creative (chaimois spetch, really?). This is an increase in income potential.

    Also, Dark Matter is NPC sold and relatively easy to obtain from what the post suggests. On top of that, the chance to retain the repair mat after repair is being increased - bringing more bang for your buck per dark matter.

    All in all, this new system reduces inventory clutter and server load all while increasing repair functionality. On top of that it makes repairs more lucrative for crafters.

    For once I kind of felt like I wasn't gonna see people whining about this one... Then I remembered that not everyone likes to read between the lines.
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  7. #197
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dubont View Post
    low level crafters, most likely, won't be able to use the materia system to any extent. High level crafters won't be hurt by this, but the lower ones will. 25k a month doesn't sound very promising..
    That figure is pure speculation, though.

    Are you telling me that the only way for low level crafters to make money is from selling repair mats and doing repairs themselves?
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  8. #198
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    The most commonly acquired Item by Botanists is Branches. I'm talking 20 to 1 over everything else they gather. Branches are used for two things, wands and repairs. And people don't make that many wands. Am I now going to be Dark Matter at 20 to 1 odds from trees when i go out gathering? i think not. I'm going to get branches. Branches that have now been rendered useless.
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    So where does all this dark matter come from?

    (Surprised no one brought up the reference yet)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kiote View Post
    The most commonly acquired Item by Botanists is Branches. I'm talking 20 to 1 over everything else they gather. Branches are used for two things, wands and repairs. And people don't make that many wands. Am I now going to be Dark Matter at 20 to 1 odds from trees when i go out gathering? i think not. I'm going to get branches. Branches that have now been rendered useless.
    Arrowwood Arrow Shafts
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    Cedar Arrow Shafts
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