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    Quote Originally Posted by Kiote View Post
    Gatherers are going to gather the catalysts mats. No matter how many times SE says it that is not a huge role.
    Except it is. Just because you don't want to acknowledge it doesn't mean it's untrue. People are going to be in a constant cycle of wearing down gear and breaking it down into materia to slot into better gear (which they will later wear down and break down into materia). You think the catalyst used to bind materia to gear isn't going to be an item with an astronomically high demand? Everyone is going to need it. All level ranges, all classes, everyone. Gatherers are the only ones who can supply it. How do you not get that?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kiote View Post
    Gatherers are going to gather the catalysts mats. No matter how many times SE says it that is not a huge role.
    Not as huge as gathering those branches, anyway.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kiote View Post
    It's not about the branches man..

    There "Solution" is causing more problems than its fixing.. Dev 101 Don't break more thing when you add something new.

    This is,

    Destabilizing an already unstable economy

    Hurting the Gathering Classes which they openly have no intention of supporting for a long time

    Breaking Lore in dozens of ways

    Tearing one of the few aspects of crafting out of the game

    And, once again, dumbing things down


    I really think you and Dubont are blowing this out of proportion. I don't see how this is going to ruin the economy. Gathering classes are going to get a bonus from this as they'll be able to gather a much needed item while they're gathering their other mats.

    Breaking lore? Come on now that's a stretch

    This doesn't hurt crafters either - As I said, repair materials are not a large part of the economy. Skillup mats and shards encompass by far the largest portion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DoubleEcho View Post
    Breaking lore? Come on now that's a stretch
    The entire town of Gridania revolves around respecting nature. Every class based in that town refuses to do anything that would break the laws of nature. Having a single magical sunstance that can manipulate anythign in the world pretty much tears that town and those classes down.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kiote View Post
    Having a single magical sunstance that can manipulate anythign in the world pretty much tears that town and those classes down.
    Which is going to happen soon anyway, so what's the problem?
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    "The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few"

    While the current, or previous, system of repairing may be better for the niche audience, it will not be widely accepted by any new players that join the game. SE wants to bring in new players and save this game from its own destruction, not listen to the small minority of people that want the game a certain way.

    This new system is more user-friendly, less tedious and redundant, and more streamlined for the current mmo market. Keeping the old system would just give more reasons for any new players to hate the game.

    Hate it or love it, this was a good business decision and it will make the game much more enjoyable for a vast majority of people.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kiote View Post
    The entire town of Gridania revolves around respecting nature. Every class based in that town refuses to do anything that would break the laws of nature. Having a single magical sunstance that can manipulate anythign in the world pretty much tears that town and those classes down.
    Not really. The Lancers, Archers, Conjurers and Botanists still respect nature and the forest. They still do pretty much everything they've always done, except now dark matter can repair things. It's not explained how but it does and that's all you need to know. It's a video game based in a fantasy world with magic and monsters, how is it so hard to believe that you'd have a substance that can be used to fix a wide variety of things?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kiote View Post
    It's not about the branches man..

    There "Solution" is causing more problems than its fixing.. Dev 101 Don't break more thing when you add something new.

    This is,

    Destabilizing an already unstable economy

    Hurting the Gathering Classes which they openly have no intention of supporting for a long time

    Breaking Lore in dozens of ways

    Tearing one of the few aspects of crafting out of the game

    And, once again, dumbing things down
    While I can't say this will hurt the economy in a big way (since the economy is already broken). It's a bit silly that they are using only 5 universal items to fix everything. Really, what's the point of repairing items now...oh wait, the jerk who's only gonna offer 500gil to repair everything.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kiote View Post
    It's not about the branches man..

    There "Solution" is causing more problems than its fixing.. Dev 101 Don't break more thing when you add something new.
    Epic foresight approaching...

    This is,

    Destabilizing an already unstable economy
    An economist. I would love to hear how you came to that conclusion without knowing the rarity of dark matter, the value NPCs will sell them for, and how often one will be able to keep it after repairing. Surely this must be an educated prediction rather than a pessimistic emotional response to change!

    Hurting the Gathering Classes which they openly have no intention of supporting for a long time
    * Dark matter can be obtained from vendor NPCs, as guildleve rewards, and through gathering.

    Breaking Lore in dozens of ways
    lol, really?

    Tearing one of the few aspects of crafting out of the game
    I... think we can still repair stuff. More stuff even. With less inventory clutter. Yeah, I totally feel like I lost something as a crafter now...

    And, once again, dumbing things down
    I believe Renta already answered this one in greater detail than was even necessary. It was a mindless action before, and still remains a mindless action now.

    Filling your inventory with a variety of mats does not make anyone/anything smarter.
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    Last edited by NoctisUmbra; 07-16-2011 at 03:00 AM.

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    Kiote i think you are a troll and this thread is stupid now <.<
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