Any plans for Skillchains?

[Molly_Millions]

IMHO the biggest mistake they did with BR is that they didn't explain clearely how it works, otherwise i find it much more casual friendly than SC.
Let's face it, when we started using SC we didn't know what to do, personally i found that really confusing and really hard to perform. Doing a correct SC in Dunes was hard as hell. Where's the difference? That back in XI we always had in party someone experienced that told us what to do, even when we were noobs. There were always someone with a macro anticipating the SC in the chat log before doing the WS, so we knew what we had to do and we learned how it works.

In FFXIV we are all still pretty noob so except a few people that enjoy testing things with linkshell mates, most of the players don't know how everything works. With pick up groups usually i was the only one knowing how BR works, so if I saw it was taking too much time to queue the skills and that they were all messed up i just explained everyone what they had to do and then everything went fine.

Imagine if everyone has a macro for BR saying something like "Regimen of Ruing starting in 5 sec - queue normal attacks" or "TP ready - Battle Regimen starting in 5 sec - queu WS" when they stack the first skill, like we did back in FFXI, wouldn't it be much easier than the SC system?
It won't be as powerful as a BR in a well trained party, but that's what I love about BR system: we the right knowledg it can be easy and useful in pick up groups and hard and devastating in static parties, it's relly versatile.

Still it needs some fixes, i'm ok with the core system, but the debuffs we have are pretty boring :/ I'd love to see more combinations, like combo attacks or elemental attacks.

I'm not sure if you know this already, but those macros would cause confusion if for no other reason than light attack => light attack => light attack doesn't work, niether does WS => WS => WS.

the correct cominations go something like this:

light attack => light attack
heavy attack => heavy attack
light attack => light attack => magic attack
heavy attack => heavy attack => magic attack
WS => WS
WS => WS => Spell
Spell => Spell
Spell => Spell => WS

I think there are one or two more but three of the same type of attacks in a row will break the BR as will two weapon skills from the same class one after another.

[syntaxlies]

I'm not sure if you know this already, but those macros would cause confusion if for no other reason than light attack => light attack => light attack doesn't work, niether does WS => WS => WS.

the correct cominations go something like this:

light attack => light attack
heavy attack => heavy attack
light attack => light attack => magic attack
heavy attack => heavy attack => magic attack
WS => WS
WS => WS => Spell
Spell => Spell
Spell => Spell => WS

I think there are one or two more but three of the same type of attacks in a row will break the BR as will two weapon skills from the same class one after another.

light and heavy attack can be mixed in any combo for def down, not just light+light and Heavy+Heavy. Also i try to always stack 3 incase one misses.

[Molly_Millions]

light and heavy attack can be mixed in any combo for def down, not just light+light and Heavy+Heavy. Also i try to always stack 3 incase one misses.

the problem with that approach is that to get the most out of a BR you must have a new skill type in the 3rd position, for example WS => WS => Spell or Spell => Spell => WS. If you have WS => WS => WS => Spell, the spell is no longer 3rd and damage from it is not as good unless the first WS misses. But as far as the regular attacks you are correct, I didn't list all possible combos.

[syntaxlies]

the problem with that approach is that to get the most out of a BR you must have a new skill type in the 3rd position, for example WS => WS => Spell or Spell => Spell => WS. If you have WS => WS => WS => Spell, the spell is no longer 3rd and damage from it is not as good unless the first WS misses. But as far as the regular attacks you are correct, I didn't list all possible combos.

no, i emant for def down. light+light+heavy or heavy+light+heavy, any combination. Only 2 of the three have to hit for def down.

[Molly_Millions]

no, i emant for def down. light+light+heavy or heavy+light+heavy, any combination. Only 2 of the three have to hit for def down.

but again, it's more effective if you use light => light => magic attack or even light => heavy => magic attack

The reason is that regular attacks are not very likely to miss and you get the added debuff of magic def down in addition to phys def down.

[syntaxlies]

but again, it's more effective if you use light => light => magic attack or even light => heavy => magic attack

The reason is that regular attacks are not very likely to miss and you get the added debuff of magic def down in addition to phys def down.

but they do miss, Im not saying my way is the best or anything that's just what i do. If you hit all three you are not penalized for it and you can still go light+light+light+magic and get the added bonus. We were killing spitfire the other night over and over again and with only 2 of us doing the def down BR, we would get a miss here and there and have to do it again. Oh well, was just a tip, not trying to force my ideas on you.

[Molly_Millions]

but they do miss, Im not saying my way is the best or anything that's just what i do. If you hit all three you are not penalized for it and you can still go light+light+light+magic and get the added bonus. We were killing spitfire the other night over and over again and with only 2 of us doing the def down BR, we would get a miss here and there and have to do it again. Oh well, was just a tip, not trying to force my ideas on you.

was somebody in the pt gimp or something? like someone with like 13 dex playing MRD or LNC? Last night when we were doing them we maybe missed two out of 30 or 40 tries.