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    Quote Originally Posted by Alcide View Post
    Nope, they didn't explain everything I said in my previouse post, I found out most of the things by testing myself
    Im really sorry but i have to call BS. How did you find out the effects by testing it your self. You were able to gauge the mobs TP lvl to see that WS were costing more, you also checked the mobs MP and figured out that the icon was DEF down just by looking at it. It must have taken you a long time to figure out all these things on your own that could have been easily read on lodestone anytime. If this is true i fell bad for you that you spent so much time figuring this out when the information was there the whole time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by syntaxlies View Post
    Im really sorry but i have to call BS. How did you find out the effects by testing it your self. You were able to gauge the mobs TP lvl to see that WS were costing more, you also checked the mobs MP and figured out that the icon was DEF down just by looking at it. It must have taken you a long time to figure out all these things on your own that could have been easily read on lodestone anytime. If this is true i fell bad for you that you spent so much time figuring this out when the information was there the whole time.
    I said most of the things... before being so rude take some time to read carefully.

    Note that if you put the skills in a certain order you can add more than one debuff on the mob with a single BR.

    Also there are some rules on the boost damage BR:
    1- in order to get the max boost you can't put two skills of the same class next to each other: Moonrise>Punture>Moonrise daes A LOT more damage than Moonrise>Moonrise>Puncture.
    2- If you change type of BR in the middle of the queue the damage boost stops: Moonrise>Puncture>Pummel>Moonrise the boost stops at Puncture, because the BR is boost damage typ at Moonrise>Punture and TP down type at Pummel>Moonrise.
    Moonrise>Puncure>Moonrise>Twisting Vice(performed by an archer) the boost stops at Puncture, because Moonrise>Twisting done by an archer turn the BR into a class affinity type.
    3- if you have good timing and good communication (aka voice chat) you can join the BR even if you don't queue you're skill: when the BR is released there's a short window where every skill performed is boosted. This means that the healer can join the BR by throwing a nuke at the right time and also that those opening the BR can throw in another WS at the end doing really massive damage (usually it's lancers or archers since they can build TP quite quickly)
    This is what I found out testing with LS mates, obviousely I read the rest on the lodestone >.> as anyone can, but the point of my post was that not everyone has read that guide and not everyone tested the rest, so the BR is still unknown to the majority of the people I played with in pick up groups.
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    The word "most" is what threw me off cause these are three little things and i wouldn't consider them "most" of the info about BR. The info on lodestone is enough to have any noob participating in BR. Also i challenge your 3rd point.
    Quote Originally Posted by Alcide View Post
    I said most of the things... before being so rude take some time to read carefully.



    This is what I found out testing with LS mates, obviousely I read the rest on the lodestone >.> as anyone can, but the point of my post was that not everyone has read that guide and not everyone tested the rest, so the BR is still unknown to the majority of the people I played with in pick up groups.
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    Quote Originally Posted by syntaxlies View Post
    The word "most" is what threw me off cause these are three little things and i wouldn't consider them "most" of the info about BR. The info on lodestone is enough to have any noob participating in BR. Also i challenge your 3rd point.
    Well those 3 little things (wich are four actually) are what makes the BR system amazing >.> That's what made me kill the roaming Buffalo in 7 minutes (pre nerf) so I guess they're quite important...
    And what do you mean with "I challenge your 3rd point"? Don't you believe it? Go try yourself, there's also a graphical hint: every person outside BR that perform a skill in that window has glowing hands, check their damage and you'll see the difference.

    BTW I don't get why do you have to bash on me, I just shared with people what I found out that SE didn't say, is it that bad? God, I'll just shut up the next time...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alcide View Post
    Well those 3 little things (wich are four actually) are what makes the BR system amazing >.> That's what made me kill the roaming Buffalo in 7 minutes (pre nerf) so I guess they're quite important...
    And what do you mean with "I challenge your 3rd point"? Don't you believe it? Go try yourself, there's also a graphical hint: every person outside BR that perform a skill in that window has glowing hands, check their damage and you'll see the difference.

    BTW I don't get why do you have to bash on me, I just shared with people what I found out that SE didn't say, is it that bad? God, I'll just shut up the next time...
    Im not bashing on you, you said the main thing wrong with BR is that it is not explained. I simply said if you go to loadstone the info is there. Zam has an even more in depth explanation of it. Apparently we think of the word "most" in a different way which led me to believing that you had discovered ever aspect of BR single handily. Im sorry if you felt i was picking on you. If this were in person it would be a light hearted conversation and i wouldn't take anything too serious. Im sorry for taking your text to literal.
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