Any plans for Skillchains?

[Amage]

with my ls we do br and do about 10k dmg in 1 br seriously isnt to hard . Now with that said only down fall to the BR is you can not do any action till its activated so if you dont know what your doing the party can die especially if you doing death BR .

[Seirra_Lanzce]

Wait what? o_O BR doesnt have much problem except that is a bit slow on our player side to do so, a coordinate party are able to inflict BR in a swift moments, and is pretty cool actually to use BR as the attack bonus climbs up to a person able to deal up to 2.4k-2.8k damage

[BloodLotus]

If Battle Regimens has stylish effects when the debuff was applied to the mob... would they be Skill chains then?

[Ferth]

I think the fact that the people who are outspokenly in favor of the BR system are having such a heated debate about how they even work speaks volumes for the state of BRs in the game.

The debate that should be going on is what can they do to the BR system to make it more accessible to everyone. Right now they are needlessly complicated, awkward to use, difficult to even learn how to use, and clearly not everyone has a good idea of how they even work. (even the people who are in favor of the system.)

Whether you can find merit in the system at this point is not a valid argument. And until they can be used by everyone with a clear understanding of what is required to make them work, and until we can learn to use them in an intuitive manner the system is bad.

Not because the effects aren't worth using, but because the system as a whole is largely inaccessible to the community.

I don't think that anyone is demanding they switch it for ffxi's skill chain system verbatim. But they could just as easily add something that works in close to the same way, but gives similar effects to what the BRs do now. Or they could look into completely different alternatives...

But in the Blueprint for battle reform they stated that they didn't write up any plans for the BR system because they think they will have to scrap the system entirely to implement something similar that is more accessible.

Battle Regimens
We are afraid to inform you that work on the Battle Regimen system has been postponed, as adjustments and additions alone will not suffice to address problems. There is a need to rework the system from the ground up, and we will lay the foundation stones after other changes have been seen to completion.

So for those in favor of BRs, instead of calling the rest of us idiots because we haven't experienced the need to learn how to use BRs... maybe you should start brainstorming about ideas that can keep what you like about BRs but make it more accessible to the community as a whole.

[Tezz_Xivectro]

I'm not to sure on SC's since the way they've been handling it with FF11 (different team, but idc). They've been giving in to this anti-social behavior and just allowing people to self-SC more & more (not to mention they don't seem to care that LS's don't even need too many players anymore).

I just hope FF14 doesn't reach a point where DD's are standing back while 1-2 people are on the mob so it doesn't spam attacks.

[Synapse]

Even tho i loved SC for 7 years, BR is new and unique, but it needs to be polished.
- Need to improve Visual,
- More Detrimental effects and as well as elemental debuff,
- Reverse the current bonus(BONUS should be given to the PLAYER who stacks BR FIRST), so tired of watching people wait for others to stack up so they can stack(their heavy trammel and other limited WSs) later and get bonus dmg.

[Vackashken]

I'll keep my thoughts very simple.

Use them all the time and have done so for months. Have zero problems coordinating their use amongst group runs. Still dislike them, find them bland and want them replaced.

[Cairdeas]

I think the major difference between BR and SC that I miss is that SC was a constant variable in combat. And it could happen accidentally.

Two players could throw out weapon skills randomly and suddenly theres a skill chain. Hell I was playing in one party and completely accidentally we freaking popped a Light Skill chain. it wasn't planned, no one use any macros to identify the skills they were using. We just did it. And it was epic.

[Alcide]

I think the major difference between BR and SC that I miss is that SC was a constant variable in combat. And it could happen accidentally.

Two players could throw out weapon skills randomly and suddenly theres a skill chain. Hell I was playing in one party and completely accidentally we freaking popped a Light Skill chain. it wasn't planned, no one use any macros to identify the skills they were using. We just did it. And it was epic.

Honestly I prefer a system that encourages tactics instead of randomness...

[Kilta_Firelotus]

i hated ffxi skill chains. They were tedious to set up. You had to have spesific weapon skills not just hand to hand ws or lance ws.
And depending on the persons weapon skill level, they might not even have the needed ws. There was also trying to skill chain around everyone else. People just gave up on them.
It either took to long to set up.
people weapon skilled during the set up skill chain
The tank lost hate causing the mob to move.
BR are more freer and with the que up can be easier to set up. Just need people to que up faster.

So it wasn't people didn't have skill to use them. It was just to much to work around everything. Skill chains only worked well in ls groups who were patient. Also skill chains in ffxi only caused elemental damge.

While br do debuffs to aid in various things. Do not hate on a system because you lack the patience in learning to be better at it. It takes time to be good in something.