DPS check for turn 8?

[JayCommon]

Of course you need DPS who actually know what they are doing in order to 2 tank 4 dps so I suppose that's why most groups 1 tank, easier to place all the burden on the tank and healer while the DPS coast through being awful

Hmm,

Yeah I guess intercepting homing missiles, handling brainjack, proc'ing towers, (the designated homing missile person) being stacked at the right time for ballistic, splitting landmines properly without a 2nd tank all while maintaining maximum DPS is "coasting through being awful" and is TONS less than what a solo tank has to deal with in T8.


EHHHHRMAGHERD..... A DREAD?! ZOMG....CDs /doze

[Cyrus-Wallace]

I do 230-250 DPS as WAR on the fight while also tanking the robots, it's just much easier to handle for the entire group if I blow up all the mines and the MT isn't trying to pick up the robots. Of course you need DPS who actually know what they are doing in order to 2 tank 4 dps so I suppose that's why most groups 1 tank, easier to place all the burden on the tank and healer while the DPS coast through being awful

Our group had 1917 DPS last kill (including LB2 and LB1) so I am pretty shocked when I see people can't even reach 1300-1400

I MT as paladin. I have a hard time to reach these numbers. I roughly made it up to 150, but my average is 125/130ish. This is without potions or DPS-oriented food (I use the finger sammiches). As we do the solo tank strat, the extra DPS compensates that. Thankfully all the gear I have is shared with War. I'll try War tonight and check if there's any difference.

[Marxam]

Everyone needs to be atleast at 300. I managed to get into a pug in t8 as a DRG since we one tanked it. It was my first time and we cleared it in our second try with a bard dead 2 min to enrage, and we had to burn 11%.

[captain_crunch]

I believe you need 1700 as a group to clear. It's easiest with 5 dps, but a well geared war can pick up the slack if the 4 main dps are pushing around 350 or so (war + pld hopefully equaling 350 or close to it).

You could also have your 2nd healer (if sch) dps when they can.

[Cessna]

The nice thing about turn 8 is its so easy to solo tank. Outside of the dread the avatar doesn't have any mechanics that hits the tanks too bad that requires cooldowns. I'm the main tank for my static and I have to tell you the other tank we have there pretty much is just there to take over if I should die (which almost never happens) and dps and handle mines. He doesn't even grab a dreadnaught because I'm more comfortable with pulling it across the room and fireing off a macroed set of my super cooldowns (vengance, thrill of battle, convlo) and watching the dps just melt that dread into scrap heap.

As for war dps, our dps war can put out around 240dps and I put out roughly 140-160 by keeping maim up and firing unchained off through at the battle as much as possible between the times I get brainjacked. And of course berserk is useful for snap far pulling the dreads.

[SinisterJoint]

It has nothing to do with tp.

Well, we are essectially talking about the same thing. TP / Mana song... there is no difference. They both lower dmg by the same %

Ballad and Paeon both lower damage by 20%, the way you play t8 is a moot point.

[SarcasmMisser]

I do 230-250 DPS as WAR on the fight while also tanking the robots, it's just much easier to handle for the entire group if I blow up all the mines and the MT isn't trying to pick up the robots. Of course you need DPS who actually know what they are doing in order to 2 tank 4 dps so I suppose that's why most groups 1 tank, easier to place all the burden on the tank and healer while the DPS coast through being awful

The funny thing is that we don't 2 tank because it puts too much burden on the tanks and healers with our tower order, and like heck are we going to change our tower order after almost 3 months of downing it with a faster strat. With 2 tanks the healers had to heal the mt, OT and dps hitting the towers at the same time, and 2 tanks gives the dps a pass on the mines and gives the burden to the tanks.

We kill it in sub 8 minutes why on earth would we want to start 2 tanking? And on the bad dps comment, we hit 2,200+. Our monk alone has sustained 470+. In any case 5 dps requires at least between 300-350 dps, which is well above average for pugs.

[LunarEmerald]

Scholars should at least be making sure bio is always up. Instant cast dot that can't miss.

[Nabian]

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I play warrior so I can't speak to paladin, however... One thing that may be affecting many (i know it was an issue with me) is your computer quality. This might sound crazy but hear me out. I used to play the game on a low-end gaming laptop that had no problems running the game. I just recently purchased a mid-range gaming pc and my dps instantly increased bout 20 points. I thought it may have been a fluke but when I switch back to old machine using the same gear i lose about 20 dps.

It could have something to do with the way the computer reads the data...however it seems more likely that even though your hitting the abilities as fast as you can, there may be a split second delay on lower end machines. Typically it won't make much difference but over a 10 minute fight it adds up.

It could also be all in my head...but just my 2 gil. Try doing the same dps on a high end gaming machine and i imagine your dps might go up a bit.

[SinisterJoint]

I will also note that we use 2 tanks, but the MT also does dreads. Our war does all the mechanics and still pulls high dps. It just makes it easier for the dps to not deal with it.

Point is, there are quite a few ways to do this