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    Quote Originally Posted by Tiggy View Post
    It's no where near that amount. I hear closer to 20k from most sources. Sometimes lower.
    more like 10k.
    It does 250dam/pot*8ppl=2000. the pots got like 2min cd, so you can maybe use 5 of them during the fight (since there's enrage at 11min anyway) 2k dam*5=10k.
    That's 6sec DPS, if you got 5 DD, with 350DPS. Maybe 4sec since DPS should be closer to 400, and tank is also doing damage.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Radacci View Post
    more like 10k.
    It does 250dam/pot*8ppl=2000. the pots got like 2min cd, so you can maybe use 5 of them during the fight (since there's enrage at 11min anyway) 2k dam*5=10k.
    That's 6sec DPS, if you got 5 DD, with 350DPS. Maybe 4sec since DPS should be closer to 400, and tank is also doing damage.
    dont forget contagion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaze3434 View Post
    dont forget contagion.
    haha. ya, if only all 8 ppl could use it, it would be somewhat useful.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Radacci View Post
    more like 10k.
    It does 250dam/pot*8ppl=2000. the pots got like 2min cd, so you can maybe use 5 of them during the fight (since there's enrage at 11min anyway) 2k dam*5=10k.
    That's 6sec DPS, if you got 5 DD, with 350DPS. Maybe 4sec since DPS should be closer to 400, and tank is also doing damage.
    I had thought it was lower but I didn't have the math to back that up. Thanks for dropping the math bomb. :P
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    Quote Originally Posted by RegnumMagik View Post
    What's the reasonable amount of DPS for all DD classes in t8?

    Currently, we're hitting phase 3 at 7 min and 30 seconds and I was told that's not good enough to kill it within enrage.

    Our MNK was able to shine the best at 340+
    DRG barely hits 290, same for both of our SMN.
    Our BRD however only hits around 220.
    Keep in mind everyone has i100 weapon, except one of the SMN and BRD (i95)

    Herp derp I post on the wrong forum, GM please remove this if possible.
    I believe the minimum DPS total is 1600 or so. Damage roles should be putting out a minimum of 300 DPS (including BRD) and your healers can also help DPS at some points of the fight.
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    Some people in your group need to step up their game. I'm a i105 Dragoon with Liberator and I average somewhere between 370-380 in that fight. I also take towers. We currently run 2 bards in our group and our highest geared one, averages 350-360 in that fight and that's with singing too. Our scholar does a little dps at the start too and can sometimes do up to 220. We solo tank or with a Warrior and he does about 200 dps as well.
    Sometimes it has something to do with familiarity as well. Once your group gets comfortable with the fight and mechanics, your overall dps might increase.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Orlandeu View Post
    We solo tank or with a Warrior and he does about 200 dps as well.
    This right here! I don't know why people keep saying tanks should be doing 100-130...that's ridiculous and way too low. As a tank if your not pulling at least 150-180 you're doing something wrong.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nabian View Post
    This right here! I don't know why people keep saying tanks should be doing 100-130...that's ridiculous and way too low. As a tank if your not pulling at least 150-180 you're doing something wrong.
    Show me plz how you deal 180dps as a pld with ~ilvl 95-100 maybe (when you arrive @ t8, which is the objective ob this thread)
    I am maintank PLD in our raid and i'm spamming my normal 3hit rota, circle of scorns, silence and dmg buff always on cd and i'm only out of tp for ~ 10sec and i make around 135-145dps (if the numbers are correct). Even if i would use 2xstrengh potion + poision potions there is no way to reach 160-180 (mabye with ilvl 110 or 115 weapons, which normaly isn't there when you arrive @ t8).

    In my opinion the biggest problem here is, that every1 counts the dps different with their tools, because there is no official ingame tool to count dps. I'm not even sure, if my numbers are correct, because i was only told that it is like that.
    So maybe stop beeing too optimistic and calculate a toleranz error of ~20dps in different parser settings and ofc stick to the given setting (new in t8)
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    Last edited by shoki; 07-02-2014 at 11:50 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shoki View Post
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    I play warrior so I can't speak to paladin, however... One thing that may be affecting many (i know it was an issue with me) is your computer quality. This might sound crazy but hear me out. I used to play the game on a low-end gaming laptop that had no problems running the game. I just recently purchased a mid-range gaming pc and my dps instantly increased bout 20 points. I thought it may have been a fluke but when I switch back to old machine using the same gear i lose about 20 dps.

    It could have something to do with the way the computer reads the data...however it seems more likely that even though your hitting the abilities as fast as you can, there may be a split second delay on lower end machines. Typically it won't make much difference but over a 10 minute fight it adds up.

    It could also be all in my head...but just my 2 gil. Try doing the same dps on a high end gaming machine and i imagine your dps might go up a bit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nabian View Post
    This right here! I don't know why people keep saying tanks should be doing 100-130...that's ridiculous and way too low. As a tank if your not pulling at least 150-180 you're doing something wrong.
    Most groups would rather their tank focus on tanking and staying alive than to be distracting themself when dps. Its the dps' job to do damage, and they are more than capable of doing so.
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