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  1. #41
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    Meltzeiferion's Avatar
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    Remeliez Draconflair
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    Leviathan
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    Thaumaturge Lv 50
    I don't scholar a whole lot, but I put her on obey and just have the skills tied to other stuff similar to another poster in the thread. If any full time scholars want to state otherwise against any of this, feel free as you may very well know better than I do.

    I tied Whispering Dawn with succor, Fey Covenant with Sacred Soil, and Fey Illumination with Rouse. Embrace will still be used normally even when she is on obey so I didn't mess with that. I don't know that this is necessarily the best way to do it but it seems to be a pretty decent setup to me.

    Macro setup I use is below, You can do the same thing for each skill in turn with just changing the names of stuff. You can probably take out the wait for Rouse/Illumination and Sacred/Covenant as it is mostly there with my succor so I can easily do rouse followed by succor and not have the illumination animation stop her from using whispering.

    /macroicon "Succor"
    /ac "Succor" <me>
    /wait
    /pac "Whispering Dawn" <me>
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    Last edited by Meltzeiferion; 06-30-2014 at 12:05 AM.

  2. #42
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    Gilraen's Avatar
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    Gilraen Bior
    World
    Midgardsormr
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    Archer Lv 70
    Honestly, when I was a Scholar, the only commands I ever used was Place and Heel. That's it. Rare is it that the Scholar needs the faeries beside them, and even then it's not for the Scholar's benefit. Aside from that I usually let her do her own thing, I was busy enough as is or I was moonlighting in the low levels where the faerie can literally carry the party leaving you to DD. Yeah, if that makes me lazy then lazy I be. Bad... okay, I have to fess to that, too. I was never able to beat Pharos as Scholar, which is still a benchmark on a healer's effectiveness even after the nerf.
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  3. #43
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    PetiteMalFleur's Avatar
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    Viva Diva
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    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    Scholar Lv 60
    When I'm tanking it is such a pain when the scholar has Eos on sic. She randomly blows all her CD and will pull hate with aoe heals. Please keep her in obey. Her AI is just not good enough to allow her to do this.
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  4. #44
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    Exstal's Avatar
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    Shichi Mamura
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    Behemoth
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    Pugilist Lv 80
    There is absolutely no reason for you to not manually control your pet.
    Think of it this way, would you Aetherflow => 3x lustrate all in a row? Or macro physick to a key and just turbo controller that macro? This is what Eos / Selene is doing. CD comes up, uses all skills immediately.

    It's incredibly inefficient and if you want to get the best of out the tools you are given, you will do them by yourself.
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  5. #45
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    lololink's Avatar
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    Nel Artux
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    Asura
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    Gladiator Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Exstal View Post
    There is absolutely no reason for you to not manually control your pet.
    Think of it this way, would you Aetherflow => 3x lustrate all in a row? Or macro physick to a key and just turbo controller that macro? This is what Eos / Selene is doing. CD comes up, uses all skills immediately.

    It's incredibly inefficient and if you want to get the best of out the tools you are given, you will do them by yourself.
    Not for Selene, she will alternate the 2 dances ( which can't be activated at the same time ) and manualy using her silence is almost impossible.
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  6. #46
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    Nakiamiie's Avatar
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    Maelina Sylfei
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    Hyperion
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    Conjurer Lv 64
    Quote Originally Posted by Kaze3434 View Post
    i wont say you are bad, but [...]
    Quote Originally Posted by Dels View Post
    But...that's not a good thing. [...]
    I understand that.
    It's just that coming from WHM, it was easier to learn the role that way.

    As I get more comfortable, I do micro-management more and more.
    It's just that I started wanting to fully micro-manage my fairy and it ended up terrible.

    So, I found that it was easier to place her to maximize her skills on Sic and switch to Obey when I'm comfortable.

    I still prefer WHM though, so don't worry about partying with me as scholar! xD
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  7. #47
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    Bluevann's Avatar
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    Jet'a Vahn
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    Balmung
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    Thaumaturge Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Vallug View Post
    I will probably do something similar to this.
    Everyone is telling you that you need to control Eos, and you decide to listen to the one guy who says to not do it. If you look back at the first LIVE letters when Scholar and Summoner were introduced, Yoshi-P himself said that he wanted pets to work in a way so that they could be independent in the early content, and instead manually controlled for more difficult, tactical fights at later levels.

    I stopped using Eos on "Sic" at lv45. Anything from Aurum Vale and up requires Eos's cooldowns to be ready for use at a specific time. To do otherwise really doesn't make you an effective healer. IF you really like to deal damage/debuff and give an occasional heal while the pet does what it wants, then maybe SMN is a better option for your ideal playstyle.
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  8. #48
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    Vallug's Avatar
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    Character
    Dark Falcon
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    Malboro
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    Lancer Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Bluevann View Post
    Everyone is telling you that you need to control Eos, and you decide to listen to the one guy who says to not do it. If you look back at the first LIVE letters when Scholar and Summoner were introduced, Yoshi-P himself said that he wanted pets to work in a way so that they could be independent in the early content, and instead manually controlled for more difficult, tactical fights at later levels.
    Why do people refuse to read after finding something to disagree on? I SAID SIMILAR..I have my own plans..I will play how I like and people will live and everything will be fine. I got my own ideas from everything given. Jeeze. Give people something to whine about and they will.
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  9. #49
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    SDaemon's Avatar
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    Koala Shibito
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    Sargatanas
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    Viper Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by lololink View Post
    Not for Selene, she will alternate the 2 dances ( which can't be activated at the same time ) and manualy using her silence is almost impossible.
    I manually use her silence correctly all the time...where are you finding it nearly impossible to do so?

    To the OP: obey is not a "must". It just makes things easier imo and improves healing performance.
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  10. #50
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    Nel Artux
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    Asura
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    Gladiator Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by SDaemon View Post
    I manually use her silence correctly all the time...where are you finding it nearly impossible to do so?

    To the OP: obey is not a "must". It just makes things easier imo and improves healing performance.
    Maybe it's my Selene that's not responsive to my orders, but the fairies always takes 5 secondes to do what i tell them to do ( except if she is not doing anything at the moment, but if she wants to heal someone, she will do it before listening to your order ), so unless you predict the move you must silence, it's very hard.
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