I just wanted to point out a double standard...

[Lemon8or]

just observe how they play

The things you mentioned is barely the tips of the iceberg. You can try and watch all you want but if that's really all you're watching for as indicator of good DPS, you have a lot to learn about each and every single job.

not even T8.

And I'd just ask you how do you know this when you haven't even beaten T5, let alone T8? How do you know everyone who beats it is not min/maxing? As Tiggy pointed out, you're imagining things Yoshi is not saying at all.

The funny thing about this was that the dev team did not expect any group to have enough DPS for at least several weeks after the first T8 kill. Now granted, part of this is due to finding a way to use one tank, but just that simple fact means people had to min/max to clear it. And even if they couldn't use one tank, they would have to min/max even more to beat enrage.

And where did they say they didn't expect any group to have enough DPS? They only mentioned intrepid groups that push to turn 9. And I agreed with you that people had to min/max to clear turn 8, please read the person I'm quoting's post.

That may be true, but min/maxing isn't required in any part of this game not even T8.