I just wanted to point out a double standard...

[Vangl]

Posting from my phone so excuse the potentially horrid formatting.

When someone does a dungeon and the tank or healer isn't playing their job well, it's perfectly fine to tell them that. Sometimes dungeons aren't even completable because of how bad a tank/healer can be to their group. It's perfectly fine to point out to these people how badly they are doing their jobs if that's the case, so why do people get banned for telling dps that their dps is low. I get the 3rd party program, playstation users don't have access and Yoshi P said use it but he hush hush., etc

Doesn't that seem like a terrible double standard though?

[Nekodar]

Posting from my phone so excuse the potentially horrid formatting.

When someone does a dungeon and the tank or healer isn't playing their job well, it's perfectly fine to tell them that. Sometimes dungeons aren't even completable because of how bad a tank/healer can be to their group. It's perfectly fine to point out to these people how badly they are doing their jobs if that's the case, so why do people get banned for telling dps that their dps is low. I get the 3rd party program, playstation users don't have access and Yoshi P said use it but he hush hush., etc

Doesn't that seem like a terrible double standard though?

Not double standard.
Bad dps can be noticed in more ways than just with parsers.
For example a boss taking way much longer to kill than usual.

If, however, it's clear that there is harassment over low dps and that the harassers are using parsers to determine low dps, that is clear grounds for banning.

[ThomaVanguard]

Not double standard.
Bad dps can be noticed in more ways than just with parsers.
For example a boss taking way much longer to kill than usual.

If, however, it's clear that there is harassment over low dps and that the harassers are using parsers to determine low dps, that is clear grounds for banning.

It's not even just about DPS being low. I had a group today where the BLM was doing single target instead of AoE but they were targeting different mobs than the DRG was... I basically had to choose who I wanted to take damage because with the level cap I had I didn't have the tools I needed to protect the BLM from themselves. I blame the BLM over the DRG because the DRG was actually targeting the same mob I used shield lob on. The BLM was nuking an add before I even got flash off...

[Macka]

You don't get banned for telling them they dps is low. You get banned by telling them they dps is low because they only doing 200dps instead of 475. Get your facts right. Same if you tell a healer their numbers there is no double standard.

[Zarzak]

You don't get banned for telling them they dps is low. You get banned by telling them they dps is low because they only doing 200dps instead of 475. Get your facts right. Same if you tell a healer their numbers there is no double standard.

Basically this. Long as your vague they can't touch you. Though then of course someone is going to come back at you with "what proof do you have that I can't play my class"

[Vangl]

I didn't say notice. I said to give them criticism about it. There's free reign in saying OMFG HIS HEALER BLOWS. Or SCREW THIS WHM WHO CAN'T HEAL! But god forbid you inform someone they are doing 85 dps in t5, you are at risk of getting banned.

[Macka]

I didn't say notice. I said to give them criticism about it. There's free reign in saying OMFG HIS HEALER BLOWS. Or SCREW THIS WHM WHO CAN'T HEAL! But god forbid you inform someone they are doing 85 dps in t5, you are at risk of getting banned.

If I was that whm I would've reported anyone for saying stuff like that so I don't really see your point. Fyi if those your examples of criticism...lol

[Spellbinder]

I didn't say notice. I said to give them criticism about it. There's free reign in saying OMFG HIS HEALER BLOWS. Or SCREW THIS WHM WHO CAN'T HEAL! But god forbid you inform someone they are doing 85 dps in t5, you are at risk of getting banned.

To know a player is doing 85 dps would mean you're using a third party tool, which is against the rules, which makes you subject for banning... do you see where this is going?

[Vangl]

Naw man, I'm blind. Braille keyboard here.

[Ghastly]

I'll definitely report anyone who tells me my DPS is low