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    Quote Originally Posted by givemeraptors View Post
    ??????????????????
    Where did this happen?
    Moving on...
    Really? http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...=1#post2204282

    Quote Originally Posted by givemeraptors View Post
    To which I said: That may be true, but min/maxing isn't required in any part of this game not even T8. Which Yoshi-P has said himself. The people who cleared it were going above and beyond what he believed was possible and what the fight was tuned for and thus is an unrealistic standard to hold to everyone else to and a poor defense for putting parsers in the game when they are currently unneeded.

    I don't care if Yoshi said butteflies fly out of his behind. T8/9 are absolutely that tough. You are flat out wrong since there IS content in the game that is that hard. If his intentions were as you said then he is most definitely NOT making that kind of game when it comes to end game content. Besides he has also said on numerous occasions that there is tough content in the game designed for those types of players. He was even saying this before 2.0 launched in reference to the first coil. So you need to find some way to come to terms with the fact that this is a casual game that most definitely has some non-casual end game components.

    Also, the quote you so nicely paraphrased was not given and credence to the idea that parser were unnecessary at all. The actual quote was this.

    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/162520
    Exceeding our expectations by leaps and bounds, we were astounded to find the final turn of the Second Coil of Bahamut has been cleared by an intrepid group of players hailing from the Order of the Blue Garter! Congratulations─your skill and commitment is an inspiration to adventurers everywhere. We look forward to seeing more players rise to the challenge of the Second Coil and triumph against the greatest dangers in the realm.
    Quote Originally Posted by givemeraptors View Post
    The people who cleared it were going above and beyond what he believed was possible
    No, He commended them and their commitment and said they were an inspiration to others. They did not say it was above and beyond what they believed was possible. At all.

    Quote Originally Posted by givemeraptors View Post
    and what the fight was tuned for and thus is an unrealistic standard to hold to everyone else to and a poor defense for putting parsers in the game when they are currently unneeded.
    This part was entirely made up by you.

    He did NOT say for even a second that there was or was not any unrealistic standard and it was in no way related to parsers at all. You're doing some serious mental gymnastics to stretch his quote to mean things it literally did not even talk about.

    Quote Originally Posted by givemeraptors View Post
    *Parsers won't be implemented now or in the near-future and that's pretty much all I need to be satisfied.
    I even said earlier that I don't think a parser was the right solution to this. It's ok though. Put it in small text like it won't be noticed or something and keep acting like I didn't already agree on that point.

    It comes down to this. You think nothing at all should be done in any way shape or form to assist players in improving their skills. You think the only solution is to "watch them" while you're in the middle of a raid. I'm glad you think your so elite that you can do your own rotations and focus on other people at the same time, but not everyone is and therefore that's a terrible solution or the lack of any solution at all. Something needs to be done. In the current environment the difficult battles promote hostility between players. I simply wish the game to feature some manner in which those players could practice before coming into raid scenarios. This would improve player skill and confidence and help to reduce the vitriolic encounters this exact thread was created to discuss. If you can't see the value in that then please by all means continue living your life with so much skill you can watch and deal with everyone else during a fight. The rest of us who have difficulty multitasking would like something better to train on. You need to try and understand these people better because right now you're the elitist saying "god it's easy just watch their rotations during battle" like it's an easy thing to do. It's not.
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    Last edited by Tiggy; 06-21-2014 at 05:56 AM.

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